The limit of finite approximations of area

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The discussion revolves around the concept of limits in calculus, particularly focusing on the behavior of expressions involving infinity and the simplification of rational functions as variables approach infinity.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the implications of multiplying by infinity and question how certain expressions simplify as n approaches infinity. There is a focus on breaking down a specific limit expression and examining the contributions of various terms.

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Some participants have provided guidance on simplifying the expression and clarifying misconceptions about the behavior of terms as n approaches infinity. There is an acknowledgment of differing interpretations regarding the limit and the treatment of infinity in calculations.

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One participant expresses confusion about the treatment of infinity in their textbook, while another participant attempts to clarify the mathematical reasoning behind the limit process. The discussion reflects varying levels of understanding and assumptions about limits and infinity.

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My textbook never mentioned what happens when you multiply something by infinity. I would think 4 * ∞ would be ∞. So to me that whole equation should simplify to 1 - ∞ which is ∞. I don't see how they get 2/3
 
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you're forgetting that we'd also have an '∞' downstairs too
let's take this one step at a time

[itex]1-\frac{2n^3+3n^2+n}{6n^2}[/itex]

How can we simplify this thing first

[itex]1-\frac{2n^3+3n^2+n}{6n^2}=1-\frac{2n^3}{6n^3} - \frac{3n^2}{6n^3} - \frac{n}{6n^3}=1-\frac{2}{6} - \frac{3}{6n} - \frac{1}{6n^2}[/itex]

Now, what happens here as we take n away up to infinity?
All of those [itex]\frac{1}{n}[/itex] terms go to zero, correct?

So we are left with

[itex]Limit_{n \rightarrow \infty} (1-\frac{2n^3+3n^2+n}{6n^2}) = Limit_{n \rightarrow \infty}(1-\frac{2}{6} - \frac{3}{6n} - \frac{1}{6n^2})[/itex]

From there we can see the same result your books example gave you

[itex]Limit_{n \rightarrow \infty}(1-\frac{2}{6} - \frac{3}{6n} - \frac{1}{6n^2})=1-\frac{2}{6}=\frac{6-2}{6}=\frac{4}{6}=\frac{2}{3}[/itex]
 
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My textbook never mentioned what happens when you multiply something by infinity. I would think 4 * ∞ would be ∞. So to me that whole equation should simplify to 1 - ∞ which is ∞. I don't see how they get 2/3

Why do you think that [tex]\frac{2n^3 + 3n^2 + n}{6n^3} \rightarrow \infty[/tex] as [itex]n \rightarrow \infty ?[/itex] It doesn't, and I really cannot see why you would ever think it does. Note that [tex]\frac{2n^3 + 3n^2 + n}{6n^3} = \frac{2n^3}{6n^3} + \frac{3n^2}{6n^3} + <br /> \frac{n}{6n^3} = \frac{1}{3} + \frac{1}{2n^2} + \frac{1}{6n^2}[/tex] for any n > 0.

RGV
 
thanks i got it now
 

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