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The perfect world..the perfect society..Can such a thing exist? How? Would it be better than what we have now?
I was under the impression that our world is perfect. Whats going on?
Isn't this a contradiction in terms? To be rid of insanity, you must force all people to think in the way we deem sane, perhaps arbitarily so. To do this would be to deny them the freedom of their own mind, and so turn total freedom into total totalitarianism.However, before you have total freedom, you must have a society completely free of insanity.
Thanos- I suppose if your going by the second definition, you might interpret the present world as being as good as it can be. However I do not. The reason I don't is simply because I can imagine a better world, one without starving people, without corruption and without all the the other various perversions.I was under the impression that our world is perfect. Whats going on?
FZ- My sense of perfection is only coming from my understanding of those definitions.I kinda agree. After all, where do you think our sense of perfection came from? It came from around us, a sense of integrating what we experience into our system of values
What this doesn't mean though is that we become stagnant, rather, to me, perfection is only a matter of perception, and perception changes constantly with the changing world, or becomes useless.
I'll phrase what I said a little better:quote:
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However, before you have total freedom, you must have a society completely free of insanity.
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Isn't this a contradiction in terms? To be rid of insanity, you must force all people to think in the way we deem sane, perhaps arbitarily so. To do this would be to deny them the freedom of their own mind, and so turn total freedom into total totalitarianism.
Gale- If your referring to technology, I totally agree. Technology and the standards of living that it affects can always be improved. In that sense you can say that perfection can never be reached, because tomorrow it will be better.I don't think a perfect world is possible. Least not if humans, with all their human tendencies, are a part of it. I think its sort of human nature to always try and make things better, so no matter how good things get, we'll always think we could make it better.
FZ- My sense of perfection is only coming from my understanding of those definitions.
perfect: 1. complete in every way and having no faults or errors 2. being as good as possible.
Now, let's look at this one. The first definition clearly hinges on the concept of normality. What is normality? My dictionary defines it as relating to the usual, or average of a society. Needless to say, the enforcement of sanity which would neccessitate the repression of any minority thought, can only lead to loss of real freedoms. Sanity is in this respect like "health", that it is an illusionary, statistical state, and that humanity thrives by deviating from it.Sane: 1. having a normal healthy mind; rational 2. showing good sense; sensible
Now, we tackle definition number 2. Who decides sense? Who conceives of rationality?And that ability to think rationally is what I deem sane.
Now, we tackle definition number 2. Who decides sense? Who conceives of rationality?
To all fanatics, they believe that their actions are purely rational. And so again, if we are really to eliminate irrationality, we would end up repressing.
But if we are talking about the ability to think rationally, I honestly can't see the need. I would say that most people who are not stuck in jail or pumped up on drugs or are in a coma can think in a way to conform to anyone else's sense of rationality. Can you give an example of this insanity you speak of?
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While scientific advancements have greatly improved our world, it is unlikely that they alone could create a perfect world. Many societal issues such as poverty and inequality cannot be solved solely through technology. It would require a combination of scientific progress, societal changes, and individual efforts to achieve a truly perfect world.