The Poor Us?

  1. I was wondering if in future , like in 2800 or 3000 , we get enough information about life on some other planets, and we get to contact and interact till 3500 and then we setup our bases on other planets till 4000...., then we start travelling light years pretty easily till 6000 , we form communities with people on other planet till 7000 ......

    As a science student, I was thinking about the research on Universe life, extraterrestial , black holes, worm holes, dark energy , solar energy and other unsolved mysteries....and wondering ...they all might be solved within 7,000 years as I mentioned above...I feel so much pity on myself that I am a mere man who might die till 2060 ....I will die wondering human beings havent done anything...And will never probably see what really happened after my death....the adventure that remains in front of me...the knowledge that waits us...poor me..


    Does anyone feels the same?
     
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  3. well it isnt the year 7000, but i can answer a few black hole questions...

    it isnt a warp hole or anything, its a very immense gravitational body so immense in size and density that gravity can within a certain distance draw specs of light towards it... i cant qoute the formula but its the mass of both objects that provides gravitational pull. well its intense to understand that a tiny thing as lightless as... well light could be pulled inwards by such a large gravitational body.

    thus why a black hole is referred to as a black hole, cause no light can escape the immense gravity of it. the event horizon is the point at which light itself is drawn towards inwards. and to qoute my grade 8 physics teacher it could crush the world to the size of a pee.
     
  4. I'm not sure what this means, but it sounds like you think humans haven't done anything scientifically. If that's the case, I can't agree at all. I'm stunned sometimes by what we've learned recently, and by the things we can engineer. Looked at against the backdrop of the whole of human history it seems to me things have accelerated beyond belief since Galileo.
    Here again, I feel that I am unable to do more than scratch the surface of what science has discovered to date. I feel less a loss about what will be discovered after my death, than by the fact I haven't the capacity to even read, much less integrate, everything humans already know right now.
     
  5. Ivan Seeking

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    I know how you feel Dr. Brain. If I could somehow know how things turn out in a few thousand years, it would be worth just about anything to know; like maybe 72% of my right large toe, maybe even more!
     
  6. Here're some ways to look at it..

    Although you may be missing future fun, you could be living out your life in full here contributing to society as you see fit doing what you like to do, rather than in a post-apocolyptic future hellhole, with organs failing and falling flat-lined fast from ferocious fallout fumes.

    And all those mysteries are not for sure to be solved by 7000. I'm sure there may be new mysteries and riddles to facilitate future-man's concern for his post-mortem future world. I don't think mankind will ever feel like they're at the endpoint (unless faced with destruction). Continued civilization will have so many new opportunities. Answering one question raises two more.

    Hapiness is all relative.. Our ancestors rejoiced with breakthrough discoveries about the world, proudly forged new territory, and were mesmerised by the Northern Lights. Everyone regardless of era has an equal opportunity on happiness. And of course nearly every human who ever lived/will live dreams about the future. And if you believe there is more than just this life we are living, then you should have hope and be at peace, for you will see the future. If you don't believe this, then you recognize that you are granted a window, a period of perspective. You should look out the window, it's a pretty good view.
     
  7. Danger

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    Is that a regular run-of-the-mill pee, or a heavy-duty beer pee?
     
  8. Danger

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    Sorry about doing 2 posts, but I didn't want to spoil the symmetry of that last one. :biggrin:
    That's not quite what black holes are about. They can be microscopic, or on the other end of the scale some people consider the Universe to be one. I'm gonna bail on that, because it looks like a job for Space Tiger.
    As far as the future is concerned, I'm counting on medical science to keep ahead of me enough that I am essentially immortal. (Although, frankly speaking as a smoker, I would not accept a lung transplant if someone else needed it because I brought it on myself. I would, however, work like hell to develop an artificial lung.) Some things that I love to dream about will never happen. FTL travel, for instance. The only way around the light-speed barrier that I can see is the wormhole approach, but the amount of negative energy required to sustain one exceeds that which is present in the universe. The 'warp drive' approach which I saw something about would appear to be a make-work project for NASA personnel who have nothing to do. They seem to be looking at creating a bubble of space around a ship, in relation to which the ship remains stationary, and there is nothing that theoretically prevents one piece of space from exceeding light speed in another piece of space. (I'm not holding my breath over that.)
    The other thing to consider is that any ET life will probably be so drastically different from ours that we either won't recognize it, will try to exterminate it, or will be unable to communicate with it. Look at the difference between a human and those lichen-things that live on seabed volcanic vents, and consider that they share most of our genes. An ET would share none, if it even has DNA to begin with.
     
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  9. Danger

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    Is that the top one? You are referring to your digging foot, right?

    Mental Gridlock; very cool post, man. You have a great approach to life.
     
  10. Lisa!

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    Don't worry,your situation isn't so bad.just think about people who die coz of sickness and the cure to their sickness will discover after their death! :cry:

    Anyway,there's 1 thing if scientist discover it,you won't have these conserns anymore. :bugeye: am I right?
     
  11. Danger

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    Elucidate, please. :confused:
     
  12. I remember watching a movie. I think it was 'Red Planet.' There was one point were the philosopher guy says that if the Earth were to be destroyed then the human race would have meant nothing. This upset me because I don't think it is true. If I believed that then I would have no reason to live. I believe that life means something now. The universe will continue just fine with or without humanity. It doesn't owe us anything. We should make the best of what time we live in with respect for those that came before us and those that will come after. If seeing the universe revealed is what motivates you then why wait until the year 7000 for it? Do your part in your own life so that others can benefit sooner. And on the same note, don't take for granted the knowledge and technology that we have now.

    Sorry, not upset at you. Just that line in that movie really upset me because it totally negates everything that comes before or after the present.
     
  13. Lisa!

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    1.the way of staying alive forever! :yuck:
    2.If we want to be realist,first one isn't possible but:
    Why do we never feel so sad that we can't fly exactly like birds?
    That's easy coz no human could do.So usually we wants things when others could have but we can't.


    Okey,so scientists should prevent borning human.So no human will be alive to see such a improvement in knowledge. :surprised
     
  14. cronxeh

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    considering the progress was really exponential in past 50 years as compared to past 500 years, you will see results in your life time - probably not the ones where you can walk on distant galaxies' planets, but certainly ones where we get to map out every planet in our solar system, as well as many advances in biology and materials science, which will subsequently enable advances in electrical, mechanical, and nuclear engineering
     
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  15. Danger

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    You have an intriguing approach to the language. :tongue:
    Sorry about misunderstanding the first post; I thought that you were on a different topic with the 2nd paragraph. We'll never be able to live forever, because the universe can't last forever. It'll either re-collapse, or simply run out of energy and go cold. I'll be satisfied with a few thousand years. (I'll probably need false teeth or something by then anyhow.)
     
  16. Lisa!

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    Why do you think so? :confused:
    Believet it or not,most of people included my parents and close friends still misunderstand what I say. :wink:

    Well,can I give you some years of my life?(shh,my mother and granmother are around me and if they hear what I said they want to talk to me whole the day about not to leave them so soon. :cry: )
     
  17. wolram

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    Chin up old boy, stiff upper lip, tomorrows another day, things could be worse,
    dont exacerbate the situation, blast it im going for a drink.
     
  18. Science progresses one death at a time - Niels Bohr

    ^^^^^
    I think that gives us a little inspiration!!
     
  19. Lisa!

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    You guys think that:is it possible to view a black hole?
    I heard that everything near them will be divided to its elementary particles.
     
  20. wolram

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    You guys think that:is it possible to view a black hole?
    I heard that everything near them will be divided to its elementary particles.
    Hi Lisa.
    You would be able to see the, "event horizon". not the hole, Things will
    stay intact until they are drawn into the hole.
     
  21. Lisa!

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    Thanx.I'm really happy that you're here. :smile:
    Maybe human could see the hole 1 day,let's be hopeful.
     
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