The Speed of Light = Zero: Is This the Ultimate Limit?

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The discussion centers around the concept of the speed of light, with participants proposing that light may effectively travel at a speed of zero relative to the universe. This perspective challenges traditional views of special relativity, suggesting that a photon exists in a state between past and future, raising questions about its mass and the implications for time and space. Some contributors argue that existing theories do not adequately explain these ideas or predict experimental outcomes, prompting a call for further theoretical development. The conversation also touches on the relationship between light speed, time dilation, and the nature of dimensions in spacetime. Overall, the dialogue explores unconventional interpretations of light's speed and its implications for understanding the universe.
whitelighter
[SOLVED] The speed of light = Zero

What! you say...oh no! :biggrin:

Context context...

WE have a speed of light at approximately 300,000 kms per second in a vacuum...agreed? Yes I think so...hmmmmmm

Sr tells us that light travels at a speed that can not be exceeded and that to do so would reverse time...ok...what does this tell us...or should I say me.

It says to me that light is in fact traveling at a speed that is zero relative to the universe it travels within...therefore in it's unmeasured state it has a speed of zero.


A photon is positioned smack bang in the middle of time between the past and the future ( I am so glad we have a theory development section at this forum)
 
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whitelighter says: "It says to me that light is in fact traveling at a speed that is zero relative to the universe it travels within...therefore in it's unmeasured state it has a speed of zero...A photon is positioned smack bang in the middle of time between the past and the future"

Not to interrupt your fun or anything, but does your theory explain anything that existing theories don't already explain? Does it predict the result of any possible experiment? If not, what's its point?
 
jdavel said:
whitelighter says: "It says to me that light is in fact traveling at a speed that is zero relative to the universe it travels within...therefore in it's unmeasured state it has a speed of zero...A photon is positioned smack bang in the middle of time between the past and the future"

Not to interrupt your fun or anything, but does your theory explain anything that existing theories don't already explain? Does it predict the result of any possible experiment? If not, what's its point?

I think it is quite relevent.

If you accept time dilation, length contraction and mass increase then you have a photon of infinite mass that takes no time to cross the universe. Does that make its speed infinite? Does not fit well with thermodynamics though which states something like you don't get something for nothing.

This is one of the problems I find with SR. If you cross ten light years of space at almost c and it takes an hour what was your velocity? Is it ten light years per hour or have I warped space so that the distance is only a few million kilometers. Woops, sorry planet I didn't mean to crush you.
 
ramcg1 said:This is one of the problems I find with SR. If you cross ten light years of space at almost c and it takes an hour what was your velocity? Is it ten light years per hour or have I warped space so that the distance is only a few million kilometers. Woops, sorry planet I didn't mean to crush you.
Or is it relative?

Paden Roder
 
It says to me that light is in fact traveling at a speed that is zero relative to the universe it travels within...therefore in it's unmeasured state it has a speed of zero.

yes, i think that's right, you could say that the fabric of 4d spacetime is moving at c - in this way a photon is simply a 'drag' interaction between expanding spacetime and...?
 
My first post...

I tend to agree with Billy Boy and Whitelighter in that the way we look at relativity may in some ways be confused...we measure "c" after the effect...yet as 'c' is being measured we are moving at the same velocity as 'c'

I read some where a poster said
"in ten seconds a photon has traveled 3 million kms. In those same ten seconds we have observed the reflection of a hamburger cooking."

This simply states that 'c' is a universal relativistic zero constant and any velocity beyond stationary is added to 'c' which may account for time dillations etc.

This is theory development I would presume.
 
The speed of light directly supports how dementions there are in space time that's why when you time travel you go to a parallel universe. Speed of light is in increments of 8 the speed of light is only for finding new dementions not for traveling. Look up Quantum time port where time and space are the same place. Who cares about the speeed of light. Time is controlled by the speed of b = magnetism
 
b = magnetism

The speed of light directly supports how dementions there are in space time that's why when you time travel you go to a parallel universe. Speed of light is in increments of 8 the speed of light is only for finding new dementions not for traveling. Look up Quantum time port where time and space are the same place. Who cares about the speeed of light. Time is controlled by the speed of b = magnetism
 
and dare I ask what is the speed of magnetism?
 
  • #10
b= is a constant

it's in all directions B/c2 * x/d
 
  • #11
betalimit can you tell us what all the symbols of your equation indicate or mean?

I am curious?
B=
c2=
x=
d=
I assume the / = divided by and the * means multiplied by
 
  • #12
classified

classified R*T*d2 RTD2 hello quantium world

b= magnetic
c2 your speed of light
x solve for
dementions


half of a circle diameter
 
  • #13
so we have

magnetic/300,000ks per sec *2 * solve for/dimensions

hmmmmm

You have said that c = B

so B/B*2*...hmmmmm...something wrong here
 
  • #14
I canot tell you everything. Everything is possible we are now so advanced we can compute to infinet so go out side and injoy life once you find what you are looking for it not really what it is it's somthing else to fill the void it's called the code @ www.beyond-science.com
 
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