Therefore, the focal length of the mirror is -1m.

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The discussion revolves around calculating the focal length of a mirror given a 2.0-cm-tall object that produces a 1.0-cm-tall upright virtual image located 150 cm from the object. Initial calculations incorrectly suggested a focal length of 3m, but further analysis revealed the image is virtual, requiring adjustments to the magnification formula. By applying the correct sign conventions for virtual images, the final calculations determined the focal length to be -1m. The importance of understanding the relationship between object distance, image distance, and magnification in mirror equations is emphasized. Ultimately, the focal length of the mirror is confirmed as -1m.
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[SOLVED] Focal length of a mirror

Homework Statement


A 2.0-cm-tall object is placed in front of a mirror. A 1.0-cm-tall upright image is formed behind the mirror, 150 cm from the object.

What is the focal length of the mirror?


Homework Equations


1/f=1/s+1/s'
m=h'/h
m=-s'/s


The Attempt at a Solution


.5=-s'/s
s+s' = 1.5m

Combining those 2 equations, I get:
s'=3
s=-1.5

1/f=(1/-1.5)+(1/3)
f=3m

When I calculate it the focal length, f, it comes out to 3m, which is obviously way too big.
 
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If image is virtual, magnification is also negative.
So -m = -s'/s
Now try to solve the problem.
 
rl.bhat said:
If image is virtual, magnification is also negative.
So -m = -s'/s
Now try to solve the problem.

Setting m negative gave me the same answer
-.5=s'/s
s=s'/-.5
s+s'=1.5
s'/.5+s'=1.5
-(1/2)s'+s'=1.5
s'/2=1.5
s'=3

According to my book, s' should be negative, though, because we have a virtual image on the opposite side of the object.

Continuing anyways...
s=1.5-s'
=-1.5

1/f=(1/-1.5)+(1/3)=-.3
f=-3m

Still not correct.
 
-0.5 = - s'/s
Or 0.5 = s'/s
 
rl.bhat said:
-0.5 = - s'/s
Or 0.5 = s'/s

-.5=-s'/s
s=-s'/-.5

s+s'=1.5

-s'/-.5 + s' = 1.5
(1/2)s' + s' = 1.5
(3/2)s'=1.5
s'=1

s+s'=1.5
s=1.5-s'
s=.5

1/f=(1/.5)+(1/1)=3
f=1/3=.33m

Which is still wrong.
 
Image is virtual.
so 1/f = 1/s - 1/s'
 
Solved:

m=-s'/s=1/2
-s'=s/2
|s'|=s/2

|s|+|s'|=1.5
|s|+|s/2|=1.5
3/2s=1.5
s=1

|s|+|s'|=1.5
|s'|=1.5-|s|
s'=1.5-1
s'=.5
but since s' is negative for virtual, upright images
s'=-.5

1/f=(1/1)+(1/-.5)=-1
f=-1m
 
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