Thermal Physics Joke: Is It as Silly as It Seems?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a joke related to thermal physics and nutrition, specifically addressing the caloric implications of consuming cold desserts and beverages. Participants explore the accuracy of the calculations presented in the joke and the terminology used in nutrition versus physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a joke claiming that consuming cold desserts results in a significant caloric deficit due to the energy required to raise their temperature to body temperature.
  • Another participant points out that the calculations in the joke are incorrect by a factor of 1000, as the term "calories" in nutrition typically refers to kilocalories.
  • Some participants note that food labels often use "kcal" to denote kilocalories, which may lead to confusion among the general public.
  • There is mention of a distinction made in dietetic studies where "Calories" with a capital "C" refers to kilocalories, while "calories" refers to the smaller unit.
  • One participant expresses a preference for using joules in discussions about food energy, suggesting a different approach to the terminology.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the joke's calculations are flawed due to a misunderstanding of caloric terminology. However, there is no consensus on whether the humor remains intact despite the inaccuracies.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the potential for confusion in the general public regarding the terms "calories" and "kilocalories," indicating a limitation in understanding that may affect interpretations of dietary information.

AutisticAlien
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The other day I sumbled upon the following joke:

As we all know, it takes 1 calorie to heat 1 gram of water 1 degree centigrade. Translated into meaningful terms, this means that if you eat a very cold dessert (generally consisting of water in large part), the natural processes which raise the consumed dessert to body temperature during the digestive cycle literally sucks the calories out of the only available source, your body fat.

For example, a dessert served and eaten at near 0 degrees C (32.2 deg. F) will in a short time be raised to the normal body temperature of 37 degrees C (98.6 deg. F). For each gram of dessert eaten, that process takes approximately 37 calories as stated above. The average dessert portion is 6 oz, or 168 grams. Therefore, by operation of thermodynamic law, 6,216 calories (1 cal./gm/deg. x 37 deg. x 168 gms) are extracted from body fat as the dessert's temperature is normalized. Allowing for the 1,200 latent calories in the dessert, the net calorie loss is approximately 5,000 calories.

Obviously, the more cold dessert you eat,the better off you are and the faster you will lose weight, if that is your goal. This process works equally well when drinking very cold beer in frosted glasses. Each ounce of beer contains 16 latent calories, but extracts 1,036 calories (6,216 cal. per 6 oz. portion) in the temperature normalizing process. Thus the net calorie loss per ounce of beer is 1,020 calories. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to calculate that 12,240 calories (12 oz. x 1,020 cal./oz.) are extracted from the body in the process of drinking a can of beer.

Frozen desserts, e.g., ice cream, are even more beneficial, since it takes 83 cal./gm to melt them (i.e., raise them to 0 deg. C) and an additional 37 cal./gm to further raise them to body temperature. The results here are really remarkable, and it beats running hands down.

Unfortunately, for those who eat pizza as an excuse to drink beer, pizza (loaded with latent calories and served above body temperature) induces an opposite effect. But, thankfully, as the astute reader should have already reasoned, the obvious solution is to drink a lot of beer with pizza and follow up immediately with large bowls of ice cream.We could all be thin if we were to adhere religiously to a pizza, beer, and ice cream diet.

Happy eating!​

This is all wrong simply because of a nomenclature issue? In Nutrition, people call "calories" what in chemistry and physics is called "kilocalorie", meaning 1000 calories, meaning the energy needed to take 1 liter of water (instead of 1 gram) from 21.5°C to 22.5°C.

So you'd actaully burn 6 out of the 1200 calories in the dessert, making the 1200 "latent calories", 1994 net calories.

Is this as silly as I think it is? Or is there something obvious that I'm missing?
 
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As you mentioned, the fact that all the calculations are clearly wrong by a factor of 1000 kind of kills any humor in the premise.
 
AutisticAlien said:
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This is all wrong simply because of a nomenclature issue? In Nutrition, people call "calories" what in chemistry and physics is called "kilocalorie", meaning 1000 calories

On the food, it says "kcal", not "cal". So there is no excuse for this kind of behaviour! :smile:
 
torquil said:
On the food, it says "kcal", not "cal". So there is no excuse for this kind of behaviour! :smile:

Some people would not know the difference though...lol
 
Perhaps it annoys my friends a bit, but I tend to use kilo-joule and mega-joule in gastronomical discussions.
 
So this is supossed to be funny because most people don't know that what they usually call "calories" are actually kcalories. Well, thanks guys :P
 
AutisticAlien said:
So this is supossed to be funny because most people don't know that what they usually call "calories" are actually kcalories. Well, thanks guys :P

Most serious dietetic studies that still use Calories make a distinction between the two terms by capitalizing the "C" in dietetic Calories. Hence, 1 Calorie = 1000 calories. Most food labels follow this practice, but--unfortunately--not all of them.
 
klimatos said:
Most serious dietetic studies that still use Calories make a distinction between the two terms by capitalizing the "C" in dietetic Calories. Hence, 1 Calorie = 1000 calories. Most food labels follow this practice, but--unfortunately--not all of them.

Now that you mention it, I think I've read about that a while ago. Makes sense. Thanks!
 

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