Fraction within a fraction -- Units

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The discussion centers around a problem involving the metabolic energy required to warm ice water to body temperature, specifically exploring the calculations needed to determine the volume of ice water that would equate to burning a certain number of calories. The subject area includes thermodynamics and calorimetry.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the algebraic manipulation of equations related to heat transfer and volume calculations. There is confusion regarding the correct arrangement of terms and units in the derived equations.

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Some participants have pointed out errors in algebraic steps, particularly in the derivation of an equation for volume. There is ongoing exploration of the correct mathematical operations needed to resolve the unit discrepancies. Multiple interpretations of the algebraic manipulation are being examined.

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Participants are grappling with unit consistency in their equations and the implications of fractional terms in algebraic expressions. There is a recognition of alternative methods to approach the problem, but the focus remains on clarifying the current algebraic approach.

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When you drink cold water, your body must expend metabolic energy in order to maintain normal body temperature ( 37.0°C ) by warming up the water in your stomach. Could drinking ice water, then, substitute for exercise as a way to “burn calories?” Suppose you expend 430 kcalories during a brisk hour-long walk. How may litres of ice ( 0°C ) would you have to drink in order to use 430 kcalories of metabolic energy? For comparison, the stomach can hold about 1 litre .

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The volume V of a mass m of water is given by V =m /ρ,where m is the mass, and ρ is the density of water. In order to warm a mass m of ice water to body temperature, the body must provide an amount Q of heat given by Q = cm∆T , where c is the specific heat of water and ΔT is 37 C°, the difference between body temperature (37 °C) and the temperature of ice water (0 °C) . Therefore using Q = cm∆T to calculate the required mass m of ice water, and V = m/ ρ to find the corresponding volume V.

The Attempt at a Solution


The volume of given water is V =m /ρ (1)

Rearranging Q = cm∆T in terms of m gives us: m= Q/c∆T (2)

Substiuting (2) into (1) yields: V = (Q/c∆T)/ρ = Qρ/c∆T (3)

The only problem with this is the units for this resulting equation (3) don't work out correctly and I am unsure what mathematical steps I am missing.
It's really the substitution that's confusing me.
The only way the units work out to be m^3 is if V = Q/ρc∆T where the density is part of the denominator which I cannot see how to get to.

I also realize there is another way to solve this problem (ie finding the heat energy needed for 1kg of ice water and dividing the 430kcal into this) but I'm just not sure what I'm missing in my method to reach the same answer.
 
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Your algebra is incorrect in obtaining Eqn. 3.
 
Chestermiller said:
Your algebra is incorrect in obtaining Eqn. 3.

I'm just confused as from what I've learned thus far any fractional denominator is simply flipped upside down and multiplied into the original fraction.

V = (Q/c∆T)/ρ = (Q/c∆T)(ρ/1) = Qρ/c∆T

I realize I'm repeating myself but if there is a name for this operation could you please mention it and I'll happily go through it myself.
 
$$V=\left(\frac{Q}{c\Delta T}\right)\frac{1}{\rho}=\frac{Q}{\rho C\Delta T}$$
 

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