Thermodynamics and Statistical Thermodynamics References

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around recommendations for textbooks on thermodynamics and statistical thermodynamics, focusing on various titles and their perceived strengths and weaknesses. Participants share their experiences with specific books and suggest alternatives based on their academic needs.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant recommends "Thermodynamics, Kinetic Theory, and Statistical Thermodynamics" by Sears and Salinger as a good starting point.
  • Another participant notes that "An Introduction to Thermal Physics" by Daniel V. Schroeder involves significant derivation in its exercises and may not provide enough step-by-step guidance.
  • A participant praises Fermi's book for its clarity and conciseness, despite suggesting it may not serve as a comprehensive textbook.
  • Some participants express strong opinions about "Thermodynamics and an Introduction to Thermostatistics" by Herbert B. Callen, with one stating it should not be recommended due to its treatment of enthalpy.
  • Another participant mentions "Heat and Thermodynamics" by Zemansky and Dittman as a sufficient resource for undergraduate studies.
  • One participant highlights "Thermal Physics" by Kittel and Kroemer as an excellent choice, while another suggests it may not be as widely recommended as Zemansky and Dittman based on the number of editions published.
  • There is a mention of "Equilibrium Thermodynamics" by C.J. Adkins as a highly regarded text.
  • Another title, "Concepts in Thermal Physics" by Blundell, is mentioned as potentially acceptable.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on the recommended textbooks, with no clear consensus on which book is the best choice. Some participants strongly advocate for specific titles while others criticize them, indicating a diversity of perspectives on the suitability of each book.

Contextual Notes

Participants' recommendations and critiques are based on personal experiences and may depend on individual learning preferences and academic backgrounds.

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Hi,
i'm an Applied Physics student (2nd year).
Could you please tell me a book to study thermodynamics from?
I've studied from Thermodynamics, Kinetic Theory, and Statistical Thermodynamics by Sears - Salinger and it is pretty good.
Has anyone "tested" :
1) An Introduction to Thermal Physics by Daniel V. Schroeder
2) Heat and Thermodynamics by Mark W. Zemansky - Richard H. Dittman
3) Thermodynamics and an Introduction to Thermostatistics by Herbert B. Callen
4) Thermodynamics by Enrico Fermi ?

If someone has tried another textbook and they think it was really helpfull, please let me know.
Thanks, in advance!
 
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I used An Introduction to Thermal Physics by Daniel V. Schroeder last semester. It required a lot of derivation as part of the questions. If you want a book with more step-by-step help and sample problems worked out within the text, I'd look elsewhere. I have not tried any others to give you a better suggestion, however.
 
anyone some help? please??
 
Fermi's book is excellent. I also like Tolman's "principles of statistical mechanics".
 
I own a copy of Zemansky & Dittmar (1981), which I use as a (fairly good) reference. I tried to read Callen: I would never recommand that book to anybody because it assumes that enthalpy can be 'created' from internal energy by applying a Legendre Transform with respect to volume: It is Science Fiction.
I do like Cengel (Introduction to thermodynamics and heat transfer), so may be Cengel & Boles (2006) is a good start.
 
I used Zemansky & Dittman for undergrad, since Dittman was on the faculty where I did my undergrad. It was fine. I really did not need anything outside of it for an undergrad physics Thermo class. It was comprehensive enough for undergrad, I felt.
 
The best book I've every seen is Thermal Physics by Kittel and Kroemer. Clear, readable, and quite interesting.
 
twofish-quant said:
The best book I've ever seen is Thermal Physics by Kittel and Kroemer. Clear, readable, and quite interesting.

There is a thread on this subject:
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=149365&referrerid=219693

It suggests that Zemansky & Dittman might be a better choice then Kittel & Kroemer.
This is also suggested by the number of edtions (re-)printed.
 
Fermi's book is too simple to be suitable as a textbook but its like thermodynamics in 160 pages with most lucid explanation. Its an easy read, very small in size and teaches you most pure thermo concepts very clearly. No matter what textbook you go with, read fermi anyways.

As texts I recommend Zemansky or "Equilibrium Thermodynamics" by C.J Adkins. Adkins book is just awesome as a text.
 
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Concepts in Thermal Physics by Blundell seems okay.
 

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