Thermodynamics of matter under pressure

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the thermodynamic behavior of dry ice under high pressure, particularly in the context of a tank containing dry ice and a fluid with a lower freezing point passing through it. Participants explore the implications of temperature changes on pressure and the state of the dry ice.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant posits that the temperature of the tank will rise due to the hotter fluid passing through, questioning whether this will also lead to an increase in pressure.
  • Another participant asserts that raising the temperature in a closed vessel will invariably increase the pressure, regardless of the contents.
  • A participant requests clarification on the specific outcomes for the dry ice under the described conditions.
  • A later reply references a pressure-temperature phase diagram for CO2, indicating that if the conditions fall within a certain region (blue), the dry ice will melt, while in another region (red), it will remain solid.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the outcomes for the dry ice and the relationship between temperature and pressure, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without consensus.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not clarify the specific pressure and temperature conditions in relation to the phase diagram, nor does it resolve the assumptions regarding the behavior of the fluid and its interaction with the dry ice.

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Imagine a tank with dry ice under high pressure, 150 psi or higher. A pipe carrying a fluid (with a freezing point lower than the temperature of the tank) passes through the tank with an initial temperature much higher than the tank.

What will happen to the dry ice? I assume the temperature of the tank will rise because of the hotter fluid passing through. Will the pressure rise as well?
 
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If you raise the temperature of a closed vessel the pressure will go up, no matter what's in it.
 
What will happen to the dry ice?
 
Please look here: pressure-temperature phase diagram of CO2:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Carbon_dioxide_pressure-temperature_phase_diagram.svg"
If conditions are in blue region then dry ice will melt.
In red region will remain solid.
 
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