Thermodynamics - work in adiabatic, isothermal, isobaric

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In the discussion on thermodynamics, a problem involving the compression of an ideal gas to half its initial volume is analyzed across adiabatic, isothermal, and isobaric processes. The initial conclusion suggested that the order of work required by an external agent is adiabatic, isothermal, then isobaric. However, a correction is noted regarding the treatment of external work, indicating that work done on the system is considered negative, which reverses the ranking. The accepted answer is identified as isobaric, isothermal, then adiabatic, highlighting the importance of understanding work conventions in thermodynamic processes. Clarification on these conventions is essential for accurate problem-solving in thermodynamics.
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Homework Statement


21. A quantity of an ideal gas is compressed to half its initial volume. The process may be adiabatic, isothermal, or isobaric. Rank those three processes in order of the work required of an external agent, least to greatest.
A. adiabatic, isothermal, isobaric
B. adiabatic, isobaric, isothermal
C. isothermal, adiabatic, isobaric
D. isobaric, adiabatic, isothermal
E. isobaric, isothermal, adiabatic


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The Attempt at a Solution


If I graph these three curves on a P-V axes, it seems to me that the work by the external agent will be positive because the volume is getting smaller. Also, the work is like the area under the curve for any of these processes, and so I get it choice A as my answer.

The isobaric path encloses a rectangle, the isothermal a hyperbola and the adiabat, a path that encloses less area than the isothermal.

I'm only checking because the answer given is E. And I don't know where I'm going wrong.

Thanks a lot ahead of time.
 
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The problem lies in what you treat external work as. The most accepted convention-well at least in my part of the world-is that work energy coming in the system is negative hence the inequality you built would be reversed.Your logic seems good enough.
 
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