Thévenin resistance and Load resistance vs maximum power

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the application of Thévenin's theorem to determine the ideal load resistance for maximum power output in a given electrical network. Participants explore the relationship between Thévenin resistance, load resistance, and power output, addressing both theoretical and practical aspects of the problem.

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Main Points Raised

  • The initial poster has calculated the Thévenin resistance (1.66 ohms) and voltage (8 volts) and believes that a load resistor of 1.66 ohms will yield maximum power output.
  • Another participant suggests using the Thévenin equivalent circuit to derive a power expression for a variable load resistor and inquires about maximizing this expression.
  • The initial poster calculates a power output of 38W using the formula P=U^2/R with the given values but questions the validity of this result in the context of their earlier calculations.
  • A participant clarifies that a Thévenin equivalent consists of a voltage source in series with a Thévenin resistance, which is relevant to the calculations being discussed.
  • The initial poster expresses confusion regarding the interpretation of the problem statement, particularly the placement of the load resistor in relation to R4.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the interpretation of the problem or the calculations involved. There are competing views on how to apply the Thévenin equivalent and the implications for power output.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the correct configuration of the load resistor in relation to the Thévenin equivalent circuit and how this affects the calculations for power output. Some assumptions about the circuit configuration may not be fully clarified.

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This discussion may be useful for students studying circuit theory, particularly those interested in the application of Thévenin's theorem and maximum power transfer principles.

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Homework Statement


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This is the network.

The problem states that a new resistor is put between A and B, in parallel with R4.
I should find the ideal resistance for this load resistor and show that this is indeed the ideal resistance for maximum power output.


Homework Equations



R_th = R_L-max
P=\frac{E_(th)^2}{4 \times R_th}

The Attempt at a Solution


I have determined the Thévenin resistance and voltage in an earlier problem and found them to be:
Rth = 1.66 ohm
Eth = 8 Volts
I_R4 (before load resistor is connected) = 4 ampere
This is double checked with the solution.

I have also double checked that the load resistor should be 1.66 ohm to provide maximum power.

The power output is found using the P=formula stated above which gives me 9.36 W.
This is also correct according to the solution.


My problem is showing that with a lower or higher resistance, the power output will drop.
I can't simply put another resistance value into the formula above as the power will increase if I insert a lower resistance.

Can someone kick me a step in the right direction?
 
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Use the Thevenin equivalent circuit to drive a load resistor R of indeterminate value (it's a variable). Write the expression for the power transferred to R. How might you going about maximizing the power expression with respect to R?
 
Thanks for your reply, gneill.

When i draw the thevenin circiuit with load resistor connected i will have an 8V dc suppy in parallel with 1,66 ohm thevenin resistor in parallel with 1.66 ohm load resistor.

Using these numbers, i get that the effect in the load resistor is 38W (P=U^2 / R where u=8V and R = 1,66ohm)

So what am I not taking into concideration in this situation?
 
A Thevenin equivalent consists of a voltage source in SERIES with a Thevenin resistance.
 
Oh my god.

Thank you.
 
That implies that even when the text said "a load resistor is connected to R4 in parallel", the load resistor is in series when doing the calculations based on the thevenin equivalents.

The text fooled me.
 

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