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The discussion revolves around deriving energy in an orbit, specifically addressing difficulties with integration and algebraic manipulation. The user struggles with the transition from the second to the third equation and seeks clarification on the final step involving the equation C=E((m1+m2)/m1m2). Participants emphasize the importance of showing steps in integration to identify potential errors. Additionally, they suggest that understanding the relationship between the variables involved, particularly $\mu$, m1, and m2, is crucial for solving the problem. Overall, the thread highlights common challenges in mastering orbital energy calculations.
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I'm trying to derive the energy in an orbit and don't quite understand it (which makes remembering it pretty difficult for exams!)

I've put parts of my notes relating to this below.

My first problem is with the integration (2nd equation to 3rd equation). I've tried using integration by parts, but cannot get this answer. I've tried searching on the internet for the answer, but can't find it.

My next problem is the final step, getting to C=E((m1+m2)/m1m2). It says using eq 33, which is the equation after 'Integrating' (the third equation in the list). I don't understand how this is related at all?

Thanks in advance for any help, this has got me totally confused!

[PLAIN]http://img718.imageshack.us/i/energy1.png[PLAIN]http://img151.imageshack.us/i/energy2.png

http://img718.imageshack.us/i/energy1.png
http://img151.imageshack.us/i/energy2.png

Sorry about the links, can't get it to show the pictures in the post
 
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UniPhysics90 said:
(2nd equation to 3rd equation). I've tried using integration by parts, but cannot get this answer.
Please show your steps so we can see if you did anything wrong.
UniPhysics90 said:
My next problem is the final step, getting to C=E((m1+m2)/m1m2). It says using eq 33, which is the equation after 'Integrating' (the third equation in the list). I don't understand how this is related at all?
It is a matter of algebraic manipulation. The last two equations on the energy1.png page can be combined and to solve for C in terms of m1, m2, and E. Is there a relationship between $\mu$, m1, and m2?
 
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