Three dimensional torque questions

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In summary, the conversation discusses torque problems in three dimensions and how the dimensions and placement of the plank affect the distance a person must walk to fall into the water. It is noted that if the plank has symmetry and is perpendicular to the force of gravity, its thickness does not matter. The conversation also briefly mentions the concept of statics and how the placement of the force can impact torque or moment.
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how would you do torque problems, except in three dimensions?

my knowledge is limited to basically planks or other bars that can be considered to be two d.

for example, a 6m, 10kg plank has 2 meters hanging off the side of the pirate ship. how far does the 50kg pirate have to walk from the side of the ship to fall into the water?

well that's simple.

but now let's assume that the plank has a third dimension. let's say it's a square with a certain depth. what if he's walkign closer to one edge than the other?

if we're looking at this situation from above.

the square contains the points (3,3), (-3,3), (-3,-3), and (3, -3). the center of mass is at the origin. the ship's edge is along the line x=1. the pirate is walking along the line y=-2.

how does that affect how far he has to walk?

this isn't homework. just general curiosity. :)
 
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Just intuitively, I would think that if the plank has symmetry about its CG and it is perpendicular to the normal force of gravity, its "thickness" won't matter.
 
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true, but that wasn't what i was wondering about either way. i shouldn't've mentioned thickness. it's besides the point... sorry about that
 
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Statics. Say you are still dealing with a force straight down. That keeps it easy.
In your example the force can only act around x=1 no matter where you place the force along Y. But if the plank were only supported at a point (1,1) then your force can act around x=1 and y=1. So, you have torque or a moment around both.
 

1) What is three dimensional torque?

Three dimensional torque is a measure of the rotational force applied to an object in three dimensions. It takes into account the magnitude, direction, and position of the force to determine the object's tendency to rotate.

2) How is three dimensional torque calculated?

Three dimensional torque is calculated by multiplying the force applied to an object by the distance from the rotational axis. The direction of the torque is determined by the right-hand rule, with the thumb pointing in the direction of the force and the fingers curling in the direction of rotation.

3) What is the unit of measurement for three dimensional torque?

The unit of measurement for three dimensional torque is newton-meter (N⋅m) in the SI system. In the imperial system, it is measured in pound-feet (lb⋅ft).

4) How is three dimensional torque different from two dimensional torque?

Two dimensional torque only takes into account forces and rotations in a single plane, while three dimensional torque considers forces and rotations in three dimensions. This means that three dimensional torque is more accurate and can better describe the rotational motion of an object.

5) What are some real-life applications of three dimensional torque?

Three dimensional torque is used in many fields, including engineering, physics, and biomechanics. It is important in designing structures, analyzing the stability of objects, and understanding the movement of joints and muscles in the human body.

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