Three points on the Complex plane

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The discussion revolves around the geometric properties of points in the complex plane, specifically focusing on the relationships between three points, denoted as a, b, and c. Participants explore the conditions under which these points form specific types of triangles, such as equilateral or isosceles, based on their distances and angles.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants examine the angles formed by the vectors between the points and derive conditions for equidistance. They also explore algebraic representations of the relationships between the points and question the implications of their findings on the triangle's properties.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the triangle's properties, with some participants suggesting it may be isosceles while others argue for equilateral conditions. Multiple interpretations of the relationships between the points are being discussed, and some guidance has been offered regarding the algebraic manipulations involved.

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Participants are working under the constraints of complex number representations and are questioning the assumptions regarding the distances and angles between the points. The discussion reflects a mix of established mathematical principles and speculative reasoning about the triangle's nature.

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Homework Statement
Find the geometric configuration of the points a, b, and c if (see equation below)
Relevant Equations
(b-a)/(c-a)=(a-c)/(b-c)
##arg((b-a)/(c-a))## is an angle between ##ab## and ##ac##.
##arg((a-c)/(b-c))## is an angle between ##ca## and ##cb##.
For them to be equal, ##b## has to be equidistant from ##a## and ##c##, i.e. ##|b-a|=|b-c|##.

Then the equation for distances becomes, ##|b-a|/|c-a|=|c-a|/|b-a|##.
Thus, ##|c-a|=|b-a|=|b-c|##.

My answer, equilateral triangle.

Are there other possibilities or constrains?
 
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Write <br /> (a- b)(b - c) = (a - c)^2 = (a - b + b - c)^2. If a - b = A and b - c = B then \begin{split}<br /> AB &amp;= (A + B)^2 \\<br /> 0 &amp;= A^2 + AB + B^2 \end{split} which has solution <br /> A = e^{\pm i \pi/3} B so that the angle between A and B is \frac{\pi}3 and |A| = |B|.

However, since a = b + A and c = b - B the angle between a - b and c - b is actually \frac{2\pi}3, which is not equilateral. Rather, it is isoceles with angles \frac{\pi}6, \frac{\pi}6 and \frac{2\pi}3 and sides |A|, |A| and \sqrt{3}|A|.
 
pasmith said:
Write <br /> (a- b)(b - c) = (a - c)^2 = (a - b + b - c)^2. If a - b = A and b - c = B then \begin{split}<br /> AB &amp;= (A + B)^2 \\<br /> 0 &amp;= A^2 + AB + B^2 \end{split} which has solution <br /> A = e^{\pm i \pi/3} B so that the angle between A and B is \frac{\pi}3 and |A| = |B|.

However, since a = b + A and c = b - B the angle between a - b and c - b is actually \frac{2\pi}3, which is not equilateral. Rather, it is isoceles with angles \frac{\pi}6, \frac{\pi}6 and \frac{2\pi}3 and sides |A|, |A| and \sqrt{3}|A|.
If ##|a - b| = |b-c| = |A|## and ##|a-c|=\sqrt{3}|A|##, then the first equation, $$(a- b)(b - c) = (a - c)^2$$ makes $$|A||A|=3|A|^2$$ -?
 
pasmith said:
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<br /> (a- b)(b - c) = (a - c)^2 = (a - b + b - c)^2. If a - b = A and b - c = B then \begin{split}<br /> AB &amp;= (A + B)^2 \\<br /> 0 &amp;= A^2 + AB + B^2 \end{split} which has solution <br /> A = e^{\pm i \pi/3} B so that the angle between A and B is \frac{\pi}3 and |A| = |B|.
Isn't the solution to the quadratic ##A = B\left(\frac{-1}2 \pm \frac {\sqrt 3} 2 i\right)##? Or in polar form ##A = Be^{\pm i \frac{2\pi} 3}##?

Also, I suspect that the triangle is isosceles, of which equilateral is a special case, but I haven't worked out a counterexample.
 
Mark44 said:
I suspect that the triangle is isosceles, of which equilateral is a special case
As ##|A|=|B|##, the first equation becomes ##|A|^2=|C|^2##. Thus ##|C|=|A|##, i.e., the triangle is equilateral.
 
Yes, it should be A = Be^{\pm 2\pi i/3}, making the triangle equilateral: the interior angle at b is \frac{\pi}3 and |a - b| = |c - b|.
 
pasmith said:
Yes, it should be A = Be^{\pm 2\pi i/3}, making the triangle equilateral: the interior angle at b is \frac{\pi}3 and |a - b| = |c - b|.
Thank you for the clear derivation.
 

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