Three questions on injective functions.

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The discussion revolves around three questions regarding injective functions. The first question addresses whether an injective function from Rn to Rm necessitates that m is greater than or equal to n, with references to space-filling curves and Cantor's theorem suggesting that bijective mappings exist between sets of the same cardinality. The second question considers if each component function of an injective mapping from Rn to Rn must also be injective, with examples indicating that this is not necessarily true. The final inquiry seeks references for these concepts, highlighting the complexity of the hypotheses involved. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the nuances of injective functions and their properties in higher dimensions.
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Q1. Claim: Suppose f : Rn -> Rm is injective. Then m >= n. Is this true?

Q2. Claim: Suppose f : Rn -> Rn is injective and f(X) = [f1(X) f2(X) ... fn(X)]T. Then each fk must be injective. Is this true?

Q3. I assume the above claims are known results or have known counterexamples. Can someone direct me to a good text or reference for questions such as these?

Thanks.
 
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Space-filling curves should address #1.
 
A space-filling curve is everywhere self-intersecting, and therefore can't be injective (though they are surjective). However, your point is taken: by Cantor's theorem the cardinality of [0, 1] is the same as [0, 1]^n for any finite n. And a mapping f : A -> B where |A| = |B| can be injective.
 
robbins said:
Q1. Claim: Suppose f : Rn -> Rm is injective. Then m >= n. Is this true?

All Rn's (n>0) have the same http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinality" , hence there exist bijective maps between them.

Q2. Claim: Suppose f : Rn -> Rn is injective and f(X) = [f1(X) f2(X) ... fn(X)]T. Then each fk must be injective. Is this true?

Not sure if I understand you correctly. The identity map on R^2 is injective, but the components are the coordinate projections, which are not injective.
 
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robbins said:
A space-filling curve is everywhere self-intersecting, and therefore can't be injective (though they are surjective). However, your point is taken: by Cantor's theorem the cardinality of [0, 1] is the same as [0, 1]^n for any finite n. And a mapping f : A -> B where |A| = |B| can be injective.

Right, sorry. I knew that they were all the same size, and I knew about space-filling curves, but I didn't check that they actually worked for the problem stated!
 
yyat said:
All Rn's (n>0) have the same http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinality" , hence there exist bijective maps between them.



Not sure if I understand you correctly. The identity map on R^2 is injective, but the components are the coordinate projections, which are not injective.

I think he means that if the infective mapping can be written in a form where the mapping for each component only depend on the value of that component, the mapping for each component is injective.

For such a statement the hypothesis is is difficult to satisfy because it almost looks like a one dimensional curve in an n dimensional space.
 
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John Creighto said:
I think he means that if the infective mapping can be written in a form where the mapping for each component only depend on the value of that component, the mapping for each component is injective.

For such a statement the hypothesis is is difficult to satisfy because it almost looks like a one dimensional curve in an n dimensional space.

Your interpretation is correct. My original question was not stated clearly (should have used subscripts).
 
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