Time Independence: Modeling the Physical World

In summary, there have been attempts to create a time-independent model of the physical world, which is known as the "standard view" of physical law. This view considers the laws of physics and the symmetries of physics to be timeless or eternal, and only the choice of observer brings about the concept of time. However, there are objections to this view and some argue that time itself could be a fundamental interacting factor in the physical world. There are also time-independent phenomena and physical variables, such as energy, momentum, and angular momentum, that are not additive in particles and do not involve the concept of time. Additionally, there have been discussions on whether motion could be derived from Euclidean shape, as seen in the provided link.
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Has there been any attempts to create time-independent model of physical world?

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Hippasos said:
Has there been any attempts to create time-independent model of physical world?

It depends what you mean with model. I'd say to a certain extent the "standard view" of physical law is timeless, and time (t) only emerges when you choose an observer. But the laws of physics and the symmetries of physics are according to standard reasoning timless or eternal, since the laws of physics are often assumed to obviously be observer independent.

OTOH, if you want to hear some brief objections to this more common view, see Smolins philosophical talk http://pirsa.org/08100049

/Fredrik
 
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No - what I was thinking that maybe time itself could be some fundamentals interacting.
 
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Hippasos said:
Has there been any attempts to create time-independent model of physical world?

Of physical word - no, but there are time-independent phenomena, called usually static ones.

There are also physical variable combinations independent of time. The most known are the total energy, momentum, and the angular momentum. These are additive in particles. There are also many others but they are not additive in particles. In terms of them there is no time because their values are conserved.
 

Related to Time Independence: Modeling the Physical World

1. What is the concept of time independence in modeling the physical world?

Time independence refers to the idea that the laws and principles governing the behavior of physical systems remain constant and unchanged over time. This allows scientists to make accurate predictions and understand the behavior of these systems over a period of time.

2. How is time independence related to the concept of causality?

Time independence is closely related to the concept of causality, as it assumes that the cause and effect relationships between different physical phenomena remain consistent and predictable over time. This allows scientists to study and understand the causes and effects of various phenomena in the physical world.

3. What are some examples of time-independent physical systems?

Some examples of time-independent physical systems include simple pendulums, planetary motion, and oscillating springs. These systems exhibit consistent behavior and can be accurately modeled using time-independent principles.

4. Can time independence be applied to complex systems?

Yes, time independence can be applied to complex systems as well. While these systems may have more variables and factors to consider, the underlying principles and laws governing their behavior remain consistent and can be modeled over time.

5. How does time independence impact scientific research and understanding of the physical world?

Time independence is a crucial concept in scientific research and plays a significant role in helping scientists understand and predict the behavior of physical systems. By assuming that the laws and principles governing these systems remain constant over time, scientists can make accurate predictions and advancements in their understanding of the physical world.

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