Time to achieve specific heat transfer for fluid flowing in a pipe

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Discussion Overview

The discussion focuses on determining the specific heat transfer for a fluid flowing through a pipe, aiming to calculate the length of the pipe required for the fluid to reach a certain temperature under specified external conditions. The scope includes theoretical modeling and mathematical derivation of heat transfer equations.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes deriving a differential equation that incorporates both convective and conductive heat resistance terms in radial and axial coordinate systems to calculate the time the fluid must spend in the pipe.
  • Another participant suggests assuming either a 'fixed wall temperature' or 'fixed wall heat flux' to simplify the heat equation and obtain a solution for the final temperature.
  • A different participant recommends consulting "Transport Phenomena" by Bird, Stewart, and Lightfoot for methods to set up and solve heat transfer problems in laminar and turbulent flow conditions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants have not reached a consensus on the best approach to model the heat transfer, with multiple methods and assumptions being proposed without resolution of which is most appropriate.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes various assumptions regarding flow conditions and heat transfer mechanisms, which may affect the applicability of proposed methods. Specific details about the external conditions and fluid properties are not provided.

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I am currently in the process of designing a section of pipe in which a fluid will flow within, and would like to determine the specific heat transfer which may occur once the fluid enters the pipe, until it exits. The fluid will be flowing at a constant velocity "V" at a Temperature "T1" at the entrance of a pipe with length "L".

In other terms, I want to find the length of pipe it would take for a fluid to be heated to a certain temperature when it is being passed through a pipe which is placed in specified external conditions.
I think this must be done by deriving a differential equation which includes convective and conductive heat resistance terms both in radial and axial coordinate systems. The differential equation must then be solved in order to calulate the time the fluid must spend in the pipe, and from there calculate the length of pipe required using the selecting fluid flow velocity in the pipe.
 
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Hi MoeHij. Welcome to physics forums.

See Bird, Stewart, and Lightfoot, Transport Phenomena. They show how to set up and solve such problems for laminar flow, with and without viscous heating being significant. They also show how to handle the problem of heat transfer in a pipe when the flow is turbulent (high Reynolds number).

Chet
 

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