Tire Pressure Gauge Reading at 44.2°C

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The problem involves determining the gauge pressure of a car tire after it has been heated from a cold temperature of -16°C to 44.2°C. The original poster provides initial conditions, including the gauge pressure and atmospheric pressure, and references relevant gas laws.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between temperature and pressure using the ideal gas law and gauge pressure concepts. There is uncertainty about the correct application of temperature ratios and their impact on pressure calculations.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different approaches to the problem, questioning assumptions about how temperature changes affect pressure readings. There is an ongoing dialogue about whether to multiply or divide the initial pressure by the temperature ratio, with some participants expressing confusion over the expected outcome.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted discrepancy between calculated pressures and the expected gauge pressure, leading to further questioning of the assumptions made in the calculations. The original poster and others are grappling with the implications of gauge versus absolute pressure.

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Homework Statement



A car tire gauge is used to fill a tire to a gauge pressure of 42.5 lb/in2 on a cold morning when the temperature is -16 C. Atmospheric pressure is 14.7 lb/in2 and 0 C = 273 K.

What would the tire gauge read when the tire has been heated up to 44.2 C?

Homework Equations



P2 = P1 (atmospheric pressure) + ϱgh (gauge pressure)
PV= nRT
P1/T1 = P2/T2

The Attempt at a Solution



P2 = (14.7 lb/in2 + 42.5 lb/in2) = 57.2 lb/in2

I don't really know if this is even the right first step. I just recognized that gauge pressure is ϱgh. What should I do next?
 
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Well, what is the ratio of the temps in Kelvin?
 
The ratio of T1/T2 = (257 K)/(317.2 K) = 0.8102143758
 
PrideofPhilly said:
The ratio of T1/T2 = (257 K)/(317.2 K) = 0.8102143758

So what would you do with that? Multiply or divide into the 57.2?
 
I'm assuming multiply:

So, 57.2 psi X 0.8102143758 = 46.3 psi BUT THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT ANSWER!
 
PrideofPhilly said:
I'm assuming multiply:

So, 57.2 psi X 0.8102143758 = 46.3 psi BUT THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT ANSWER!

Why would you assume the pressure would get smaller if the temperature increased?
 
If you divide:

57.2 psi/0.81 = 70.6 psi ALSO NOT THE RIGHT ANSWER!

The right answer is 55.8986 psi, so the pressure does get smaller.
 
PrideofPhilly said:
If you divide:

57.2 psi/0.81 = 70.6 psi ALSO NOT THE RIGHT ANSWER!

The right answer is 55.8986 psi, so the pressure does get smaller.

But 70.6 is not gauge pressure is it?
 
Oh...I got it. Thank you!
 

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