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Originally posted by FZ+
Actually, you will find that a major reason the UN did not undertake any measures regarding the conflict is that the US vetoed any resolution involving actions against Israel.
UN Resolutions alone can't create peace and ones that single out individual issues are more of a hinderance than a help. The UN has never made a serious effort at peace in the middle east and that has nothing to do with US veto of individual resolutions.

Only by mutual agreement (which clearly can't be simply imposed, it must be NEGOTIATED), can peace happen. And that means diplomatic negotiation. If the UN wanted to solve the problem, they would bring the parties to the UN to do the only thing the UN is capable of doing: TALK. The US roadmap is nice, but the essential component is the fact that the two sides are now sitting across from each other at a table talking.
 
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No but without resolutions, the UN can't act positively either. The whole process is blocked up at the first hurdle. Hence, you can complain how the Un is failing to do what it is supposed to do, but that isn't the UN's fault. It is the failure of the leading nations in the UN, especially US to come to an agreement.
And I doubt the sitting talking is a real step towards acheivement. Without practical actions, all we are doing (as evidenced by anti-Palestinian PM protests) is to seperate the people in charge from the reality of the situation. We appear to be talking success, but weaving failure.
 
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Originally posted by FZ+
No but without resolutions, the UN can't act positively either. The whole process is blocked up at the first hurdle. Hence, you can complain how the Un is failing to do what it is supposed to do, but that isn't the UN's fault. It is the failure of the leading nations in the UN, especially US to come to an agreement.
And I doubt the sitting talking is a real step towards acheivement. Without practical actions, all we are doing (as evidenced by anti-Palestinian PM protests) is to seperate the people in charge from the reality of the situation. We appear to be talking success, but weaving failure.
The UN does other things besides just making resolutions, FZ+. They have human rights councils, economic councils, councils to deal with many specific problems. They can appoint a council to host negotiations between the two sides - and make it open ended, not limited to a specific issue. Maybe the resolution creates a panel to oversee the negotiations, but thats it - and no such resolution has ever even been proposed. The UN has never proposed any real plan (ie, the current US roadmap) that could lead to peace.

Pretty much all of the resolutions regarding the Arab/Israeli issue are 'The UN condemns Israel for XXX' and 'The UN condemns the Arabs for YYY' (for example, the list you posted...) Those are all complaints, not efforts to find a solution.
 

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