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What would you say are the top 5 "hallmark"/landmark experiments in physics?
Andy Resnick said:Michaelson and Morley's (failed) aether experiment
Danger said:...Marie Curie leaving a sample of radium in the drawer with a photographic plate...
Dr Lots-o'watts said:Many important developments involve some kind of accidents.
Danger said:That's the main one that I was going to mention, since it kick-started Einstein to explore relativity.
I don't think that this qualifies as an "experiment" in itself, but Marie Curie leaving a sample of radium in the drawer with a photographic plate definitely had some repercussions in the science community.
There was also something about some old dude dropping cannon balls off of the Pisa tower...
Quite possible. Unfortunately, my lack of formal education includes history.Andy Resnick said:IIRC is was Becquerel who first discovered radioactivity/x-rays,etc by exposing film...
Danger said:Quite possible. Unfortunately, my lack of formal education includes history.![]()
Andy Resnick said:If I may be so bold as to steal a quote:
"The aim of public education is not to spread enlightenment at all; it is simply to reduce as many individuals as possible to the same safe level, to breed a standard citizenry, to put down dissent and originality”
Marine architecture? Fluid dynamics? "Greeks Gone Wild"?Dr Lots-o'watts said:Does Archimedes' bath tub count? If it isn't physics, what is it?
Studiot said:Erastothenes - realising the Earth to be round and spinning and measuring its axial tilt and radius
Billyneutron said:What would you say are the top 5 "hallmark"/landmark experiments in physics?
I can't even edit the original down to a catch phrase or two, so my apologies for quoting the whole mess.Cleonis said:This is an off-topic comment, but I feel compelled.
In the world of Greek scholars it was regarded as certain that the Earth is spherical.
Greek scholars presented arguments such as the following to show that the Earth has to be spherical:
- When the Earth moves between the Sun and the Moon the shadow it casts is always round.
- When you travel north or south you see different constellations, consistent with a shifting horizon as you travel a spherical Earth.
Medieval scholars were equally aware of the Earth's sphericity (the reasoing reaching them mostly in the form of latin translations of texts from Arabic scholars.) The Earth's size was also known to a good degree of accuracy.
Christopher Columbus disbelieved the ancient sources. Columbus insisted on a different computation that gave a value of the Earth's circumference of about 20.000 kilometers. That was his basis for believing it to be possible to sail to India by sailing around the world. (For the rest of his life Columbus insisted that no new continent was discovered: Columbus claimed it was all parts of India.)
Columbus is one of history's greatest sailors, but arguably his reasoning is among the biggest bloopers.
Danger said:Cleonis... you do know, I hope, that Earth is not spherical. It's an oblate spheroid.
Aha! So the Earth is Earth-shaped. Who'da thunk it?Cleonis said:The Earth's shape is called 'Geoid'.
The double-slit experiement with electrons wasn't until 1961. But diffraction effects in electrons were verified much earlier; Davisson and Thomson won the Nobel Prize in 1937 for their earlier experiments.Cleonis said:Experimentum crucis:
Double slit setup with electrons, obtaining interference effects, confirming the de Broglie wave-length of electrons. (I haven't been able to find when the first one was conducted.)
(From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-slit_experiment#Importance_to_physics )A Young double slit experiment was not performed with anything other than light until 1961, when Clauss Jönsson of the University of Tübingen performed it with electrons[17][18], and not until 1974 in the form of "one electron at a time", in a laboratory at the University of Milan, by researchers led by Pier Giorgio Merli, of LAMEL-CNR Bologna.
Cleonis said:Danger... you do know, I hope, that Earth is not an oblate spheroid. The Earth's shape is called 'Geoid'.
I've never heard of this Oorg dude before
Danger said:Steven, do you have any citations or other references to support your assertion? I'm not denying anything out of hand, I hope you understand, but I've never heard of this Oorg dude before. "National Geographic" maybe? Smithsonian archives? Something on Discovery Channel at 4 in the morning? Anything? Help me out, man.
stevenb said:It's just a joke, of course
Danger said:I hope that my response was in furtherance of the gag,
stevenb said:It's interesting that the only known cave painting of the famous "Oorg of the Mountain Region" shows that he looked quite a bit like your avatar.
Andy Resnick said:Michaelson and Morley's (failed) aether experiment
It's been disputed whether the experimental data was interpreted as a null result at the time. It's been disputed whether relativity was actually influenced (whether Einstein was originally aware of it). And from a modern perspective it is tautological, that is, before we can continue to celebrate that experiment we must explicitly teach students to understand distance wrongly in order to imagine a light-ruler changing length. (If we omitted the full-blown ether theory clutter from what we teach, that will make opportunity to impart more of non-discredited physics.)Danger said:That's the main one that I was going to mention, since it kick-started Einstein to explore relativity.
cesiumfrog said:It's been disputed whether the experimental data was interpreted as a null result at the time. It's been disputed whether relativity was actually influenced (whether Einstein was originally aware of it). And from a modern perspective it is tautological, that is, before we can continue to celebrate that experiment we must explicitly teach students to understand distance wrongly in order to imagine a light-ruler changing length. (If we omitted the full-blown ether theory clutter from what we teach, that will make opportunity to impart more of non-discredited physics.)
Hermann Bondi discussed this in several places.
Instead, I nominate the experiment of atomic clocks compared after being in different places (including riding aboard a jet aircraft). This is another simple test of SR, but additionally also of GR. Moreover, the notion of subjectivity of time is surely one of the most awe-inspiring in physics.
cesiumfrog said:It's been disputed whether the experimental data was interpreted as a null result at the time. It's been disputed whether relativity was actually influenced (whether Einstein was originally aware of it).
cesiumfrog said:Instead, I nominate the experiment of [...]
Loren Booda said:The Millikan oil drop experiment.
Feldoh said:Crick and Watson and DNA, probably the most useful of these experiments.
alxm said:What experiment did Crick and Watson do?
Feldoh said:Hmm I guess you're right. I was referring to the x-ray diffraction experiment that brought them to their conclusion however looking into it I guess they just got the data from someone else.