Torque change of a rod with unequal masses

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The discussion centers on calculating the torque required to halt a system of two unequal masses (1.0 kg and 2.0 kg) connected by a rigid, massless rod rotating at 20 rpm. The center of mass was correctly calculated at 2/3 meters from the 1 kg weight, but the moment of inertia was initially miscalculated due to incorrect radius assignments. The correct moment of inertia is derived from I = m1*(2/3)^2 + m2*(1/3)^2, resulting in I = 2/3. The key error was in the conversion of angular velocity, which should include a factor of 2π to convert from revolutions per second to radians per second, leading to the correct torque calculation.

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A 1.0 kg ball and a 2.0 kg ball are connected by a 1.0-m-long rigid, massless rod. The rod is rotating cw about its center of mass at 20 rpm. What torque will bring the balls to a halt in 5.0 s?

I used (m1x1+m2x2)/(m1+m2) to solve for the center of mass (2/3 meters from the 1kg weight). Then I used that to solve for the moment of inertia, using I= m1r1^2+m2r2^2, and I got I=1. I know \alpha=\tau/I, and \alpha=(\omega_final - \omega_initial) / time. I plugged in my known values (0 rps, 1/3rps, and 5 seconds, respectively) and got -0.1333 for \alpha. Then I multiplied \alpha by I and got -0.1333, which is wrong. I don't know where I screwed up. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
 
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In the calculation for the moment of inertia, you used the wrong radius for the wrong mass. The (2/3 m)^2 should be multiplied by 1.0 kg.
 
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It doesn't seem to work... I took 1*(2/3)^2 + 2*(1/3)^2 and got (2/3). Then I multiplied -0.1333 by (2/3) (angular acceleration times I) and got 0.0888, which is still wrong.
 
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It doesn't seem to work... I took 1*(2/3)^2 + 2*(1/3)^2 and got (2/3).
Metalsonic75 said:
Then I multiplied -0.1333 by (2/3) (angular acceleration times I) and got 0.0888, which is still wrong.
That is not the angular velocity, that is simply the frequencey, you need the angular frequency/velcoity.
 
Oh crap...how did I miss that? I didn't understand what Hootenanny was saying until I realized that his / was just a slash, and not a division sign. Anyway to the OP, yes it's true...you're out by a factor of 2*pi as far as your angular velocity goes.
 
Ah, yes. I multiplied 1/3rps by 2*pi and everything worked. Thank you!
 

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