Total energy of the normal mode on a string

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The discussion centers on the total energy of normal modes in a string, specifically addressing the relationship between maximum kinetic energy and displacement. It highlights the misconception that maximum kinetic energy occurs at maximum displacement, clarifying that maximum kinetic energy actually occurs when velocity is at its peak. The relationship between maximum velocity and maximum displacement is explained, emphasizing that they do not occur simultaneously. Participants agree on the correctness of the equations relating these concepts. The conversation concludes with acknowledgment of the clarification provided.
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Seems a little strange to me, that is, it considers the maximum kinetic energy when the displacement of the oscillators is maximum, i don't think this is right.
 
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Anyway, we could solve it by:
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Just take theta equal zero (it doesn't matter) and
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(omega n is just one thing, i don't know how to write the little n)
BTW, this will implies y = 0, where AFAIK is the true position where v is maximum
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LCSphysicist said:
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Seems a little strange to me, that is, it considers the maximum kinetic energy when the displacement of the oscillators is maximum, i don't think this is right.

The max KE occurs when the velocity ##\dot y_n## is max. So, the first equality in the equation is correct. For SHM ## (\dot y_n)_{\rm max}## has a value equal to ##\omega_n (y_n)_{\rm max}##. So, you get the second equality. The relation ## (\dot y_n)_{\rm max} = \omega_n (y_n)_{\rm max} ## is not meant to imply that the maximum value of ##\dot y_n## occurs at the same instant of time as the maximum value of ##y_n##.
 
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TSny said:
The max KE occurs when the velocity ##\dot y_n## is max. So, the first equality in the equation is correct. For SHM ## (\dot y_n)_{\rm max}## has a value equal to ##\omega_n (y_n)_{\rm max}##. So, you get the second equality. The relation ## (\dot y_n)_{\rm max} = \omega_n (y_n)_{\rm max} ## is not meant to imply that the maximum value of ##\dot y_n## occurs at the same instant of time as the maximum value of ##y_n##.
Yeh...You are right, thank you.
 
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