Total energy, speed, resistive force

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a skier descending an inclined slope, focusing on energy conservation principles and resistive forces. The skier's initial speed is 5 m/s, and despite calculations suggesting a final speed of approximately 23.9 m/s, the expected speed is 23.4 m/s, indicating a discrepancy likely due to a textbook error. Additionally, the calculated resistive force is found to be around 234.6 N, while the correct value is stated to be 224 N. Participants express frustration over repeated calculations yielding incorrect results, attributing the issue to possible typos in the textbook. The conversation highlights the importance of accuracy in physics problems and the challenges faced when discrepancies arise.
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Homework Statement



A skier of mass 70 kg sets off, with initial speed of 5 m(s^-1), down the line of greatest slope of an artificial ski-slope. The ski-slope is 80 metres long and is inclined at a constant angle of 20° to the horizontal. During the motion the skier is to be modeled as a particle.
- Ignoring air resistance and friction, calculate the speed of the skier at the bottom of the slope.
- The skier actually reaches the bottom of the slope with speed 6 m(s^-1). Calculate the magnitude of the constant resistive force along the slope which could account for this final speed.


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The Attempt at a Solution



For the first question my work looks like this:
(Total energy at the top of the slope) = (total energy at the bottom of the slope)
=> (PE at the top of the slope + KE at the top of the slope) = (PE at the bottom of the slope + KE at the bottom of the slope)
=> ((70g x 80sin20) + (0.5 x 70 x 5^2)) = (0 + (0.5 x 70 x v^2))
Taking g=10
=> v = sqrt(((56000sin20) + (35 x 25))/35) = 23.9 m(s^-1) (to 3 s.f.)

However, the correct answer is 23.4 m(s^-1)

For the second question my work looks like this:
(PE + KE) at the top of the slope - (80F) = (PE + KE) at the bottom of the slope
Where F is the constant resistive force
This gives (56000sin20) + (35 x 25) – 80F = 35 x 36
=> 80F = (56000sin20) + (35 x 25) – (35 x 36)
=> F = ((56000sin20) + (35 x 25) – (35 x 36))/80
=> F = 234.6 N (to 1 d.p.)

However, the correct answer is 224 N Newtons (to 3 s.f. probably).

What am I missing here?
 
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Use g=9.8 m/s^2 instead of 10. ehild
 
i know I'm supposed to use g=10 but i used g=9.8 anyway and that gives 23.7 ms^-1 and 230 N, which are both incorrect.
anything else?
 
I think your results are the correct ones. I have got the same.

ehild
 
then i wasted literally hours making the same calculations over and over. yay for textbook typos.
thanks for your help
 
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