Tracking Down Out-of-Print Books: Strategies for Researchers

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The discussion revolves around the challenges of obtaining a specific book that is frequently referenced in a thesis. The original poster found the book helpful for understanding lab measurements but struggles to locate a copy online. Suggestions include contacting the publisher or authors, exploring out-of-print bookstores, and searching platforms like AbeBooks. There are also humorous mentions of photocopying books, with some participants sharing experiences of acquiring rare texts. The conversation touches on copyright concerns, particularly regarding fair use for copying materials that are out of print. Ultimately, the consensus leans towards reaching out to the publisher first as a practical solution.
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While reading someone's thesis, I noticed they referenced a certain book constantly throughout, so I checked out a copy using interlibrary loan (our library didn't have it) and found it was incredibly helpful. It described in detail a lot of the theory behind some of the measurements my lab uses that my advisor has never explained very well to me, and well, I just want to keep this book forever. Problem is, I can't find a copy anywhere online!

Can I contact the publisher? Or perhaps go straight to the authors? Or maybe I should just never return it...
 
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Hunt on eBay or Amazon.

That's what I usually do, although I do it on Allegro.pl, not on eBay. But that's just because eBay never became very popular in Poland.
 
JaWiB said:
While reading someone's thesis, I noticed they referenced a certain book constantly throughout, so I checked out a copy using interlibrary loan (our library didn't have it) and found it was incredibly helpful. It described in detail a lot of the theory behind some of the measurements my lab uses that my advisor has never explained very well to me, and well, I just want to keep this book forever. Problem is, I can't find a copy anywhere online!

Can I contact the publisher? Or perhaps go straight to the authors? Or maybe I should just never return it...
Personally, I have laboriously photocopied whole books. I'm not normal, though.
 
If it's not on e-bay or Amazon, there are stores online that specialize in out of print books, have you searched to buy it as an out of print book? I just recently found two out of print books on e-bay. Or you can contact a bookstore and see if they can find you a copy. If that doesn't work, you can try contacting the publisher
 
zoobyshoe said:
Personally, I have laboriously photocopied whole books. I'm not normal, though.
I can't recommend this if the book is still under copyright.
 
Have you tried AbeBooks? They often have old stuff, even rare and collectible ones.
 
Jimmy Snyder said:
I can't recommend this if the book is still under copyright.
Should we turn him in? Baaad zooby!
 
Jimmy Snyder said:
I can't recommend this if the book is still under copyright.
Well, he was only copying, right?
 
turbo said:
Well, he was only copying, right?
But did he copy right?
 
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Perhaps the book zooby copied was already in the public domain. For that matter, the OP's book may be as well.
 
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Jimmy Snyder said:
Perhaps the book zooby copied was already in the public domain. For that matter, the OP's book may be as well.
I'm sure zooby only copies books in the public domain.
 
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I once contacted the publishers of an out of print book, and they sold me one and mailed it to me. It was pretty painless. Sometimes they might have some limited, extra inventory laying around. It couldn't hurt to try anyway.
JaWiB said:
[...] Or maybe I should just never return it...
Yes, yes you should.
 
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This story is not directly related, but I will relate it anyway. There is an excellent book entitled "The Einstein Theory of Relativity" by Lieber and Lieber. The book had been out of print for decades. The author and illustrator, a woman and her husband, had died and no one was able to trace their children who now owned the copyright. No publisher was willing to reprint it for fear that the descendents would come out of hiding and sue them. I was able to buy a copy on amazon for not too much money. However, about 5 years ago a reprint did finally appear and is available for even less than I paid for mine. I do not know the story of how the publisher dared to publish. As far as I know, there have been no lawsuits over it.
 
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Jimmy Snyder said:
I can't recommend this if the book is still under copyright.
I believe it is covered under 'fair use":

Copying a complete work from the library collection is prohibited unless the work is not available at a “fair price.” This is generally the case when the work is out of print and used copies are not available at a reasonable price.
http://fairuse.stanford.edu/Copyright_and_Fair_Use_Overview/chapter7/7-d.html
 
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Interesting. Not sure I want to spend hours photocopying it though. Think I'll try the publisher first :)
 
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JaWiB said:
Interesting. Not sure I want to spend hours photocopying it though. Think I'll try the publisher first :)

It's expensive and time consuming. I'm not normal.
 
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JaWiB said:
Interesting. Not sure I want to spend hours photocopying it though.
Consider yourself lucky that you have that option. I had to copy one of my favourite books by hand, because it was before photocopiers were invented. I still have cramps in my fingers from the experience, and that was over 46 years ago.
 
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JaWiB said:
While reading someone's thesis, I noticed they referenced a certain book constantly throughout, so I checked out a copy using interlibrary loan (our library didn't have it) and found it was incredibly helpful. It described in detail a lot of the theory behind some of the measurements my lab uses that my advisor has never explained very well to me, and well, I just want to keep this book forever. Problem is, I can't find a copy anywhere online!

Can I contact the publisher? Or perhaps go straight to the authors? Or maybe I should just never return it...
What year was the book published?
 
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