Tracking the Third Piece of an Exploding Ball

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The problem involves a ball of mass m that explodes into three equal pieces, with two pieces' positions given. The task is to determine the position of the third piece using principles of physics, particularly conservation of momentum.

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  • Participants discuss using conservation of momentum and center of mass considerations to find the position of the third piece. There is a debate about the applicability of F=ma in this context. Some participants question the calculations and representations of the answer.

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The discussion includes various interpretations of the problem and approaches to solving it. Some participants have provided guidance on using momentum conservation, while others have expressed confusion regarding the calculations and the representation of the answer.

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There are indications of differing opinions on the method to be used, with some participants referencing classroom instruction that may not align with the conservation approach discussed. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the solution process.

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A ball of mass m at rest at the coordinate origin exploded into three equal pieces.
At a certain instant, one piece is on the x-axis at x=40cm, and another is at x=20cm, y=-60cm. where is the third piece at that instant


I don't have an idea how to solve it I tried many time but I don't reach an answer.

I have to use Fex=Mac.m
 
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It is solved using conservation of momentum; or centre of mass considerations. (It amounts to the same thing)
As there are no external forces acting, the centre of mass of the combined 3 fragments cannot have changed position, and must still be at the centre of the coordinate system.
Alternatively, if you let the time interval = t, you can write down the x and y coordinates of the momentum of the 2 known fragments. (You have the distance traveled in that time from the coordinates. Velocity = distance/time)
The total momentum of those two plus the unknown fragment must equal zero.

I don't see how you can use F=ma here.
 


My Physics teacher told me it solved by F=ma ..
 


Sorry to hear that.

Momentum conservation it is.
 


Is the answer going to be -60i+60j ?
 


What do i and j represent here? Are they unit cm vectors in the x and y directions?
You would normally give the answer as x=-60cm and y=+60cm
How have you calculated those values. You would need to show some working, not a guess.
 


My Work :

By Conservation of Momentum :

Pi = Pf
0= mv1 + mv2 + mv3

Devid By 3m ..

= v1 + v2 + v3
= d1/3t + d2/3t + d3/3t

Devide By 3t ..

d3 = -( d1 + d2 )

d3 = -( 40i + 20i - 60j )

d3 = -40i - 20i + 60j

d3 = -60i + 60j

So x= -60
and y = 60
 


Up !
 


Yes those answers are correct. (In centimeters)
 

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