Transformations of energy in oscillatory motion

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In oscillatory motion involving a mass on a spring, potential energy is influenced by both the spring's potential energy and gravitational potential energy. The standard derivation for simple harmonic motion (SHM) typically assumes no gravitational effects, which can lead to confusion when analyzing vertical motion. When considering gravity, the equilibrium position of the mass shifts, but the net force remains governed by Hooke's law. By using a free-body diagram, one can integrate the forces to derive the correct potential energy equations, confirming that gravitational effects do not alter the form of the energy equations. Ultimately, the analysis shows that the gravitational potential energy is accounted for by adjusting the equilibrium position in the equations of motion.
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I thought that in the situation where mass is attached to the string and put into motion (vertically), energy goes between 1/2 kA^2 and 1/2 mV^2 like here - http://imgur.com/RU4P6UW

However in student's book I saw the table, which said that potential energy of gravity is also changing, which is logical, but I didn't see it included in equations anywhere for above situation.

For example here it isn't included: http://www.acs.psu.edu/drussell/Demos/SHO/mass.html

Homework Equations


Does it mean that 1/2 kA^2 already covers potential energy of gravity? I can't see any other explanation that would work, but I don't understand why would that be, because 1/2 kA^2 is supposed to be potential energy of oscillatory motion, and in horizontal situation equations are the same without any change in potential energy of gravity.

Maybe the equations are incomplete? If that's the case, then how should they look like?

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The standard derivation for mass-on-a-spring SHM assumes no gravity, or friction, or any other forces besides the spring.
The spring is also modeled as an ideal massless spring that always obeys Hook's law.
IRL you need to account for these things.

You can use a free-body diagram to help you see what the equation's look like if you include gravity...
You may want to make the near-Earth approximation for gravitational potential energy and force and take care to pick a suitable position for zero potential energy.
http://www.ux1.eiu.edu/~cfadd/1150/15Period/Vert.html
 
Achh! I think I got it! I had calculus physics quite a while ago, and your clue about free-body diagram reminded me that work done is just integral of force over distance. In this situation force of gravity F = mg just changes equilibrium position, and the net force is still F = kx, where x is the distance from new equilibrium position. Given that, integral of force over distance results in the same gains of potential energy 1/2 kx^2, so it is all ok :)

Did I got it correctly?
 
Pretty much - you can also do it from Newton's laws:

If you measure position down from the attachment point ...
- when the spring is not stretched the mass is at position ##y=u##
- when at equilibrium, the mass is lower down at ##y=e##
- stretch the spring to ##y=y_0> e## and let it go ... at ##t>0##, ##y(t)## satisfies:
##mg-k(y-u) = m\ddot y## (1)

But the equilibrium position is determined by ##k(e-u)=mg \implies ku = ke-mg## ... substitute into (1) above to give:
##-k(y-e)=m\ddot y## (2)

which is the same equation as you get for the horizontal mass and spring, with e replacing u.
The solution looks like: ##y(t) = e + (y_0-e)\cos\omega t##
 
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