Engineering Transistor equivalent circuit question

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The discussion revolves around calculating the equivalent circuit parameters of a transistor, specifically H11, H12, H21, and H22. The user attempts to derive these values using given equations and resistor values, initially calculating H11 and H21 but facing confusion regarding the direction of current in the circuit. After clarifications, the user corrects the calculation for H21, acknowledging a typing error that affected the sign. The conversation emphasizes the importance of accurately determining current directions and signs in circuit analysis. Overall, the user is guided towards the correct approach for solving the problem.
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This is the equivalent circuit to a transistor,
I am to find:
i )Short-circuit input impedance, H11
ii )Open-circuit reverse voltage gain, H12
iii)Forward current gain, H21
iv)Open-circuit output admittance, H22

Homework Equations



Vin = (H11)(Iin) + (H12)(Vout)
Iout = (H21)(Iin) + (H22)(Vout)

The Attempt at a Solution


So first i short the output, and the Vout = 0, then i have

Vin = (H11)(Iin)
Iout = (H21)(Iin)
H11 = R1 + R2//R3 = 110 Ω
H21 = -IR3 / Iin = 2/3

Then I open Iin source,
Vin = (H12)(Vout)
Iout = (H22)(Vout)

H12 = Vin / Vout
= (VR2 / Vout)
= 2/3
1/H22 = R3 + R2
H22 = 1/90 Ω -1

Am i doing this question correctly?

Reason of editing: Vin = V1; Vout = V2
Iin = I1 ; Iout = I2
 
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Your approach is fine.

Something funny going on with your determination of H21 though. Which resistor in your diagram is carrying Iout? And what's the labelled direction for that current?
 
Is it R2?

I use currendivider rule to find the current flow through R2, and i put negative sign because Iout is opposing the I_R2. So this is wrong?
 
H21 = -IR3 / Iin = 2/3

Ah didn't notice the typing error, it should be

H21 = -IR2 / Iin = 2/3

= 60 / (30 + 60)
= 2/3
 
null void said:
Ah didn't notice the typing error, it should be

H21 = -IR2 / Iin = 2/3

= 60 / (30 + 60)
= 2/3

Indeed :smile: Now, what happened to the minus sign?
 
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ah, -2/3..., thank you very much
 
null void said:
ah, -2/3..., thank you very much

Cheers.
 

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