Trig Identity Question: Finding theta in Projectile Problem

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Homework Statement



Basically I am finishing of a projectile question and I get stuck here:

Trying to find [itex]\theta[/itex]

[tex]\frac{1}{2} (sin2 \theta) tan^2 \theta -tan \theta + \frac{1}{2} sin2 \theta = 0[/tex]

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution


I tryed spliting [itex]tan \theta[/itex] into [itex]\frac{sin \theta}{cos \theta}[/itex] but I don't really get anywhere.
I know it requires using a trig identity but I can't really see a suitable one.
Thanks for the help in advance!
 
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The identities [itex]\sin(2\theta)=2\sin(\theta)\cos(\theta)[/itex] and [itex]\sec^2(\theta)=\tan^2(\theta)+1[/itex] should both be useful.

However, you won't be able to solve your equation for [itex]\theta[/itex] since it turns out your equation is true for all [itex]\theta[/itex]!:eek:

You must have made an error earlier in the problem.
 
hmm I got sin x =0 so x=0.
 
[tex]sin \theta cos \theta (tan^2 \theta) - tan \theta + sin \theta cos \theta = 0[/tex]

[tex]sin \theta cos \theta (sec^2 \theta) - \frac{sin \theta}{cos \theta} = 0[/tex]

[tex]cos^2 \theta (sec^2 \theta) = 1[/tex]

[tex]1 =1[/tex]

?
 
Ed Aboud said:
[tex]sin \theta cos \theta (tan^2 \theta) - tan \theta + sin \theta cos \theta = 0[/tex]

[tex]sin \theta cos \theta (sec^2 \theta) - \frac{sin \theta}{cos \theta} = 0[/tex]

[tex]cos^2 \theta (sec^2 \theta) = 1[/tex]

[tex]1 =1[/tex]

?

Like I said; your equation is true for all [itex]\theta[/itex], so you must have made an error earlier in the problem.
 
Ed Aboud said:
[tex]\frac{1}{2} (sin2 \theta) tan^2 \theta -tan \theta + \frac{1}{2} sin2 \theta = 0[/tex]

First thing I did was find rewrite everything in terms of sin and cos:

[tex]sin(\theta)cos(\theta) \frac{sin^{2}(\theta)}{cos^{2}(\theta)} - \frac{sin(\theta)}{cos(\theta)} + sin(\theta)cos(\theta) = 0[/tex]

Then I found the common denominator and got:

[tex]\frac{sin^{3}(\theta) - sin(\theta) + sin(\theta)cos^{2}(\theta)}{cos(\theta)} = 0[/tex]

So now we have to consider 2 cases

1) [tex]cos(\theta) = 0[/tex]

That case cannot hold because your original expression has tan in it and therefore it is assumed that [tex]cos(\theta) \neq 0[/tex]

2) [tex]cos(\theta) \neq 0 \Rightarrow sin(\theta)(sin^{2}(\theta) - 1 + cos^{2}(\theta)) = 0[/tex]

The 2nd case gives you 0 = 0 so it seems like your expression holds true for any x.
 
Ed Aboud said:

Homework Statement



Basically I am finishing of a projectile question and I get stuck here:

Trying to find [itex]\theta[/itex]

[tex]\frac{1}{2} (sin2 \theta) tan^2 \theta -tan \theta + \frac{1}{2} sin2 \theta = 0[/tex]

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution


I tryed spliting [itex]tan \theta[/itex] into [itex]\frac{sin \theta}{cos \theta}[/itex] but I don't really get anywhere.
I know it requires using a trig identity but I can't really see a suitable one.
Thanks for the help in advance!

try searching you double angle rules for something related to sin2x=2sinxcosx and apply it
 
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gabbagabbahey said:
Then you should double check your algebra :wink:

lol but if you put zero degree in you do get 0. I have probability done something wrong.
 
Zero degree? Are you saying if you evaluate it at theta = 0 you get 0 = 0? Did you read the post I made?
 
Bright Wang said:
lol but if you put zero degree in you do get 0. I have probability done something wrong.

Try plugging in other values too. ...notice anything?:wink:
 
NoMoreExams said:
First thing I did was find rewrite everything in terms of sin and cos:

[tex]sin(\theta)cos(\theta) \frac{sin^{2}(\theta)}{cos^{2}(\theta)} - \frac{sin(\theta)}{cos(\theta)} + sin(\theta)cos(\theta) = 0[/tex]

Then I found the common denominator and got:

[tex]\frac{sin^{3}(\theta) - sin(\theta) + sin(\theta)cos^{2}(\theta)}{cos(\theta)} = 0[/tex]

So now we have to consider 2 cases

1) [tex]cos(\theta) = 0[/tex]

That case cannot hold because your original expression has tan in it and therefore it is assumed that [tex]cos(\theta) \neq 0[/tex]

2) [tex]cos(\theta) \neq 0 \Rightarrow sin(\theta)(sin^{2}(\theta) - 1 + cos^{2}(\theta)) = 0[/tex]

The 2nd case gives you 0 = 0 so it seems like your expression holds true for any x.

sorry, yep your right!