Trig substitution integration problem, test in 1hr 30min

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The problem involves the integration of the expression √(9-x²) / (x²), with a focus on using trigonometric substitution as a method for solving the integral.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of trigonometric substitution, specifically setting x = 3sin(θ) and exploring the implications for the integral. Questions arise regarding the correct transformation of variables and the handling of dx in the integration process.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of different steps in the integration process, with some participants expressing uncertainty about their approaches. A few have pointed out potential mistakes and are seeking clarification on specific transformations and the integration of resulting expressions.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of accurately transforming all parts of the integral, including dx, and there is mention of external resources for verification of results. The discussion reflects a mix of confidence and uncertainty regarding the steps taken in the integration process.

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Homework Statement



√(9-x²) / (x²)

Homework Equations



Just trig substitution

The Attempt at a Solution



Ok, for trig sub I did

u=asinΘ
x=3sinΘ
9-x²=9-9sin²=9(1-sin²Θ)
so putting it into the equation

√9cos²Θ=3cosΘ/x^2

where do I go from here, I tried getting help at Math forum, but they were complete tools. Plus I have had a good experience with this site in the past
 
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You do understand, don't you that many of the people who post here, also post at other forums?

Since you say this is an integral, √(9-x²) / (x²) is NOT the problem statement: it has to be something like \int \sqrt{9- x^2}/x^2 dx.

Yes, with x= 3sin(\theta) \sqrt{9- x^2}= 3\sqrt{1- sin^2(\theta)}= 3cos(\theta). Now, what is x2 in terms of \theta. You need to replace that too. And what is dx? You need to write that in terms of \theta.
 
I still think I am making a mistake somewhere

I did
x²=9sin²Θ

so------- 3cosΘ/9sin²Θ= (1/3)cotΘcscΘ


int(1/3)cotΘcscΘ

=(x/3)ln(sinu)-ln(cscu+cotu)
using the triangle i found
(x/3)ln(x/3)-ln(3/x+(√9-x²/x))
 
I forgot to take into acount the dx, but when I do i get

(3cosΘ/9sin²Θ)*(3cosΘ)=9cos²Θ/9sin²Θ= cot²

but the integral of cot is ln(sinU) or it can be -ln(cscu)

I am stuck
 
x = 3siny

dx = 3cosy dy

(9-9siny^2)^1/2. 3cosy dy/9siny^2


(9-9siny^2) = 9cosy^2 because cosy^2 + sin ^2 = 1, multiply both sides by 9.

it becomes

3cosy . 3 cos y dy / 9 siny^2

9cosy^2 dy / 9 siny^2

it becomes cosy^2 dy / sin^2 which is coty^2 dy


but 1 + coty^2 = cscy^2. coty^2 = cscy^2 - 1

now integrate this cscy^2 - 1

you get -cot(y) - y.

I am not so sure about my solution.
 
The right answer is here, but I'm not sure which steps i am messing up


http://integrals.wolfram.com/index.j...%2F%28x%5E2%29

Integrals can have many forms of answers and this one is one of them but what they share is that they have common output.
 
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What Racer has done/said is correct; in this case, his solution is right, and integrals can be of different form. I agree after having made an error the first time :S
 
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