1. Limited time only! Sign up for a free 30min personal tutor trial with Chegg Tutors
    Dismiss Notice
Dismiss Notice
Join Physics Forums Today!
The friendliest, high quality science and math community on the planet! Everyone who loves science is here!

Trigonometric Methods, using instantaneous value of current

  1. Sep 18, 2012 #1
    1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

    The instantaneous value of current, i amp, at t seconds is given by:

    i = 15 sin(100π.t + 0.6)

    Find the value of;
    a) amplitude
    b) period
    c) frequency
    d) initial phase angel
    e) value of i when t = 2.5s
    f) time when current first reaches maximum value

    2. Relevant equations

    i=A*sin(ωτ+∅)

    i = A.sin(2pi.f.t + ∅)

    3. The attempt at a solution

    I understand from looking around these are the correct formula to use, is someone please able to explain how to arrive at the formula from question statement i = 15 sin(100π.t + 0.6)? having some difficulties understanding the math involved. Thanks.
    1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data



    2. Relevant equations



    3. The attempt at a solution
     
  2. jcsd
  3. Sep 19, 2012 #2

    jedishrfu

    Staff: Mentor

    compare the formulas one has a 15 and the general formula has an A for amplitude so now you have the first answer

    next do a comparison with the omega *t + theta term inside the sin function and match with the actual formula that should answer you other parts.

    for initial phase angle consider the case when t=0

    This problem is pretty straightforward and is just trying to get you to extract the facts from the formula so review the A * sin (omega *t + theta) formula to understand each parameter.

    also you need to show some work before we can help.
     
  4. Sep 19, 2012 #3
    Thanks for your prompt reply, that makes the application of the formula very clear. I'm still struggling to find any literature on where the actual 'general' formula comes from. I don't know if your able to help at all with this? my notes on this seem pretty sparce and can't seem to find anything much on the web. Is there anywhere you can think of that will explain this in a bit more detail. Thanks for your help.
     
  5. Sep 19, 2012 #4

    jedishrfu

    Staff: Mentor

  6. Sep 19, 2012 #5
    Perfect. Thanks very much. I'll get going on the answers. Thanks for your help, much appreciated.
     
  7. Sep 21, 2012 #6
    answers to date, i'd be grateful if anybody is able to check they're ok.


    2 a) Current=maximum amplitude ×sin (Angular frequency ×time+phase angle)
    I_((t) )=Im ×sin⁡(ωt+ θ)
    I_((t) )=15 ×〖sin 〗⁡(100πt+ 0.6)
    ∴ Amplitude = 15
    Angular frequency=100π rad/s
    Phase angle=0.6 radians

    2 b) Period= 2π/(angular frequency)
    T= 2π/ω
    T= 2π/100π
    T= 6.2831853071796/314.1592653589793
    P= 0.02s


    2 c) Angular frequency=2 × π ×f
    ω=2.π.f
    100π=2.π.f
    314.1592653589793= 6.2831853071796 ×f
    f= 314.1592653589793/6.2831853071796
    f= 49.9999999999999
    f=50Hz



    2 d) Phase angle=0.6 radians or 34º
    deg⁡〖=rad .180/π〗
    deg⁡〖=0.6 × 180/π〗
    deg⁡〖=0.6 × 57.2957795130823 〗
    deg⁡〖= 34.3774677078494 〗
    deg⁡〖=34º〗

    2 e) i=15sin⁡(100πt+0.6)
    i=15sin⁡(100π2.5+0.6)
    i=15 sin⁡(785.9981633974483)
    i= 13.7029862899072
    i=13.7amps

    2 f) I_((t) )=Im ×sin⁡(ωt+ θ)
    I_((t) )=15 ×sin⁡(100π.t+ 0.6)
    I_((t) )=15 ×sin⁡(314.1592653589793 × t + 0.6)


    I'm having a few difficulties trying to find an equation to calculate t. Is there a way of using the phase relationship between voltage and current or is there a more mathematical way of calculating this? i've read about creating a derivative of the function? my maths is pretty poor, so if anyone could offer some here that would be much appreciated. Thanks.

    I'm not sure if i've had a mare and need to recalculate some of my answers with my calculator in the radians setting?
     
  8. Apr 4, 2013 #7

    Hi,

    I think from 2e onwards you need your calculator in the radians setting. This would give you an answer for when t=2.5 of 8.47amps.
    Could someone confirm my suspicions?
     
Know someone interested in this topic? Share this thread via Reddit, Google+, Twitter, or Facebook

Have something to add?
Draft saved Draft deleted



Similar Discussions: Trigonometric Methods, using instantaneous value of current
Loading...