Trigonometric / Mixed Integral Involving Substitution

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The problem involves integrating the function xarctan(x)/(x^2 + 1)^2, which falls under the subject area of calculus, specifically integration techniques. Participants are exploring methods to approach this integral, including substitution and integration by parts.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the potential use of integration by parts and substitution methods. There are attempts to clarify the differentiation of the function x arctan(x) and its implications for the integral. Questions arise about the validity of certain substitutions and the resulting forms of the integral.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their thoughts on the substitution methods and expressing confusion about the transformations suggested by tools like WolframAlpha. Some participants are considering the necessity of using integration by parts while others are trying to understand the reasoning behind specific substitutions.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of previous tutorial experiences and challenges faced with similar integrals, indicating a context of learning and exploration rather than straightforward problem-solving. Participants are also reflecting on their understanding of the relationships between the variables involved in the integral.

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Homework Statement



integrate xarctanx/(x^2 + 1)^2

Homework Equations



Integration by parts possibly? I was attempting to do it without integration by parts because we went over this in tutorial and my TA couldn't solve it properly, hence why I'm here.

The Attempt at a Solution



I thought I could sub u = xarctanx so that du = 1/(x^2 + 1) dx but then I'm still left with one of the two x^2 + 1's. Wolfram gave me usinucosu du as the integral after substitution was complete and I feel like knowing how this was possible will be useful if I see any integrals like this in the future (rather than having to try integrating by parts).
 
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StopWatch said:

Homework Statement



integrate xarctanx/(x^2 + 1)^2

Homework Equations



Integration by parts possibly? I was attempting to do it without integration by parts because we went over this in tutorial and my TA couldn't solve it properly, hence why I'm here.

The Attempt at a Solution



I thought I could sub u = xarctanx so that du = 1/(x^2 + 1) dx ...
To find the derivative of x arctan(x), you need to use the product rule, so your result is incorrect. In fact, your result is the derivative of arctan(x) by itself.
...but then I'm still left with one of the two x^2 + 1's. Wolfram gave me usinucosu du as the integral after substitution was complete and I feel like knowing how this was possible will be useful if I see any integrals like this in the future (rather than having to try integrating by parts).

Did you understand any of what WolframAlpha did?
 
I didn't understand much of what wolfram did, except in principle. I made a mistake though: It substituted u = arctanx alone, so du = 1/(x^2 + 1) which led it to the conclusion that this was equivalent to the integral usinucosu du. You're right that I will eventually have to use parts, and I think I can handle that if I just know how it got this substitution.
 
But I personally don't see anywhere that usinucosu would have come from.
 
Anyone?
 
[itex]\displaystyle \int\frac{x\arctan(x)}{(x^2+1)^2}\,dx[/itex]

Let [itex]\displaystyle u=\arctan(x)\quad\to\quad du=\frac{1}{x^2+1}dx\,.[/itex]

That takes care of everything except [itex]\displaystyle \frac{x}{x^2+1}\,.[/itex]

Also, x = tan(u), so that gives us: [itex]\displaystyle \int\frac{\tan(u)\,(u)}{(\tan^2(u)+1)}\,du\,.[/itex]

Use the trig identity tan2(u) + 1 = sec2(u) .

Then simplify.
 
Thank you so much, I really appreciate it! I need to make sure I realize that arctan(x) = u also says something about x (which should have been rather obvious) in the future.
 

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