Trigonometric Relations for Line Segments with Fixed and Movable Points

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The problem involves finding the angle θ between two line segments drawn from fixed points P1(0,1) and P2(3,2) to a movable point P on the positive x-axis, with coordinates (x,0). The task is to show that θ can be expressed in terms of arccotangent functions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationships between the angles formed by the line segments and question the correctness of initial attempts at expressing θ. There are suggestions to clarify angle definitions and to visualize the problem through diagrams.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on naming angles and clarifying relationships between points. Others express confusion about the derivation of the angle relation and seek further clarification on the geometric setup.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on ensuring that the definitions and relationships between the points and angles are clear, as well as a recognition of the need for accurate diagrams to aid understanding.

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Homework Statement




Straight line segments are drawn from the fixed point P1(0,1) and P2(3,2) to the movable point P, with coordinates (x,0)on the positive x-axis.

Assuming that 0 ≤ x ≤ 3, show that the angle θ between the two line segments PP1 and PP2 is given by the relation:

θ= π-arccotx-arccot(3-x/2)



The Attempt at a Solution




tan\theta = (3-0)/(2 - 1) = 3/2 For PP1

\tan\theta = (3-x)/(2-0)= (3 - x)/2 For PP2

\theta = arctan(3/2) - arctan((3-x)/2)

First of all l do not know if l am on the right path and even if l am on the right path l get stuck here. Please help
 
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Hi Nyasha! :smile:
Nyasha said:
tan\theta = (3-0)/(2 - 1) = 3/2 For PP1

No, that's the line from P1 to P2, not P to P1
First of all l do not know if l am on the right path

I'm not sure either … it's difficult to tell whether you're just guessing …

to make it clear to the examiner that you're not guessing, give the angles or directions names, so you can make it clear which angles you're subtracting from which, and why …

in this case, call (0,0) O, and call (3,0) A, and use OPA = π :wink:
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi Nyasha! :smile:


No, that's the line from P1 to P2, not P to P1


I'm not sure either … it's difficult to tell whether you're just guessing …

to make it clear to the examiner that you're not guessing, give the angles or directions names, so you can make it clear which angles you're subtracting from which, and why …

in this case, call (0,0) O, and call (3,0) A, and use OPA = π :wink:


What is OPA =π ?
 
Nyasha said:
What is OPA =π ?

uhh? OPA is the angle OPA, from (0,0) to P to (3,0)
 
tiny-tim said:
uhh? OPA is the angle OPA, from (0,0) to P to (3,0)
Okay, so any tips on how l prove that θ= π-arccotx-arccot(3-x/2) ? I am really confused/blank on this question.
 
just draw it … it's obvious! :smile:
 
tiny-tim said:
just draw it … it's obvious! :smile:

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Tim l have drawn it but it is still not obvious. I still can't figure out how they came up with the relation θ= π-arccotx-arccot(3-x/2)
 
waaa!

oh Nyasha …

you missed out poor little P! :cry:
 


tiny-tim said:
oh Nyasha …

you missed out poor little P! :cry:


Tim l think l solved it now, l drew a better diagram and then figure out what to do. Here is what l did:


\theta= ArcCot((x-0)/(0-1)) = ArcCot(-x) = Pi - ArcCot(x) This one is the slope for PP1

\theta = ArcCot((3-x)/(2-0) = ArcCot((3-x)/2)

\theta = Pi - ArcCot(x) - ArcCot((3-x)/2) (subtract PP1 from PP2)
 
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Looks good! :biggrin:
 

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