Triple Integrals - Finding Mass

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The problem involves finding the mass, moments, and center of mass of a tetrahedron defined by specific vertices and a given density function. The tetrahedron has a square base and a height, with the density function incorporating absolute values of the coordinates.

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  • Participants discuss the necessity of dividing the integral into parts due to the absolute value in the density function. There are considerations about the limits of integration and whether they differ for each part. Some suggest visualizing the solid as composed of slabs to facilitate integration.

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Participants are exploring various approaches to set up the triple integrals for mass and moments. There is a recognition of symmetry in the problem, and some guidance is offered regarding the integration order and limits. However, no consensus has been reached on the exact setup or calculations.

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There are uncertainties regarding the limits of integration and the treatment of the density function across different quadrants. Participants also note discrepancies in volume calculations, indicating potential confusion in the setup.

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The problem is the following:
I need to find the mass, moments along the axis and the center of mass of the tetrahydron (centroid) with vertecies (-1,0,0) (1,0,0) (0,1,0) and
(0,-1,0) and (0,0,2) basically it has a square base with an area of 4 and height 2 units.

You are also given the density function of the solid:

P(x,y,z) = absX + absY +absZ where (X,Y,Z) are variables



Using triple integrals its really easy to find the volume or you can just find it at sight area of base times height however when integrating the density function over that volume I suspect that i have to divide the integral in four different parts since x and y can be either negative or positive while z is always positive so its absolute value will be z at all times.
I was wondering if this approach is right and if it is would the limits of integration for all four different integrals be different and how would i go by finding them?

Plus once the integral of the mass is found i suspect that the moments along each axis Mxy Myz and Mxz will be easier to find by just plugging in each corresponding varialbe in the integrand however i am not quite sure if i would plug in each corresponding variable in all four integrals or just in some of them...?

I hope someone can help!
 
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I would be inclined to do it this way: imagine the solid divided into thin slabs on top of one another- each a square. The line from (1, 0, 0) to (0, 0, 2) is given by z= -2x-2 or x= 1- z/2 so the vertex of the "slab" at height z is at (1-z/2, 0, z). It should be clear that the other four vertices are at (-1+z/2, 0, z), (0, 1- z/2, z), and (0, -1+z/2, z). You can integrate a function over the entire pyramid by integrating the function over that "slab" and then integrating with respect to z.

By the way, it seems obvious from symmetry that the center of mass is on the z-axis.
 
So are you saying that in order to find the mass you would take the triple integral of the positive values of the density function

P(x,y,z) = x + y + z
and having limits of integration the following:
x from -1 +z/2 to 1- z/2
y from -1 +z/2 to 1- z/2
z from 0 to 2
Of course you would have to integrate first either with respect to x or y but LAST with respect to z.
If this would be the case should also be the case the if you take the triple integral of just the volume dV with the above limits of integration you should get 8 units^3. Since the volume of the tetrahydron is just 8 at sight. But if i do the math out for it comes out to be 14/3 cubic units

and you are right its pretty obvious that the centroid will have coordinates (0,0,z(bar))
 
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