Trivial question about chemical rxns

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The discussion centers on the formation of chemical reactions, specifically focusing on the behavior of sodium carbonate in water and the reactions involving copper and nitric acid. Participants explore concepts related to solubility, acidity, and the classification of reactions.

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  • One participant expresses confusion about how chemical reactions are formed and specifically asks about the products of sodium carbonate dissolved in water.
  • Another participant explains that sodium carbonate dissociates into Na+ and CO3- ions and suggests that the acidity constant can indicate whether a substance is an acid or base.
  • A later reply questions the clarity of dissociation in reactions involving copper and nitric acid, presenting two possible products and seeking clarification on which reaction is correct.
  • Another participant notes that there are different types of reactions and points out that copper does not react with dilute acids, emphasizing the need to observe trends in reactivity.
  • One participant adds that very electropositive metals react with acids to liberate hydrogen and mentions that some metals react directly with water.

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Participants express differing views on the reactivity of copper with acids, with some asserting that copper is unreactive with dilute acids while others discuss the behavior of more electropositive metals. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific reactions involving copper and nitric acid.

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Participants reference the reactivity series of metals and the concept of acidity constants, but there are no explicit definitions or consensus on the conditions under which these reactions occur.

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I don't really get how chemical rxns are formed...sad but Le true

If you have the compound Na_{}2CO3 dissolved in water how do u know what's formed?

B)How do u know soluble it is/if it is an acid or base?
 
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Well I suppose you become familiar with a lot of reactions.
For example sodium carbonate breaks down into Na+ and CO3- ions.
To tell if its an acid or base you look at its acidity constant, basically how much the original substance breaks or dissociates. A large value of this constant will indicate that it is a strong acid.
Like wise you would do the same to tell how basic something is.
 
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Ed Aboud said:
Well I suppose you become familiar with a lot of reactions.
For example sodium carbonate breaks down into Na+ and CO3- ions.
To tell if its an acid or base you look at its acidity constant, basically how much the original substance breaks or dissociates. A large value of this constant will indicate that it is a strong acid.
Like wise you would do the same to tell how basic something is.

Ok that makes a lot of sense but instead of a clear dissociation what if u had a Cu + HNO3...>
how do u know exactly which reaction is correct (Cu(No3)2 +2NO2 )/ Cu(NO3)2 +2No2 +2H20 with the HNO3=4HNo3 for balancing..?
 
there exists different types of reactions. (Acid-Base, redox, disproportionation,...)

you took a bad example. actually copper does not react with dilute acids. It is quite unreactive. but very electropositive metals (sodium, calcium, magnesium,...) react with acids to liberate hydrogen.

copper can be reduced by conc. nitric or sulphuric acids.

you need to observe the trends in reactions. but sometimes there will be exceptions also.

have a look at the reactivity series of metals.
 
very electropositive metals (sodium, calcium, magnesium,...) react with acids to liberate hydrogen.

These react directly with water, no need for acid. If you want example of metal reacting with diluted acids go for iron or zinc.
 

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