Trouble understanding meaning of triple integral in spherical coordinates

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The discussion revolves around evaluating a triple integral of the function \( e^{x^2 + y^2 + z^2} \) over the unit ball, with participants exploring the implications of integrating a function of three variables in a three-dimensional space.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants question whether the integral evaluates the volume of the function within the unit ball and express confusion about the dimensionality of the function. There are discussions about the meaning of the function being integrated and its visualization.

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Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the interpretation of the integral and its geometric implications. There is an ongoing exploration of the meaning of the function being integrated, with various interpretations being considered.

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Participants are grappling with the conceptual understanding of integrating functions in three dimensions and the implications of the results, including potential physical interpretations such as density.

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Homework Statement


Evaluate \iiint\limits_B e^{x^2 + y^2 + z ^2}dV where B is the unit ball.


Homework Equations


See above.


The Attempt at a Solution


Does this evaluate the volume of f(x, y, z) within the unit ball (i.e. anything falling outside the unit ball is discarded)? Also, since f is a function of three independent variables, I'm confused - wouldn't that be four dimensional?
 
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zjmarlow said:

Homework Statement


Evaluate \iiint\limits_B e^{x^2 + y^2 + z ^2}dV where B is the unit ball.

Homework Equations


See above.

The Attempt at a Solution


Does this evaluate the volume of f(x, y, z) within the unit ball (i.e. anything falling outside the unit ball is discarded)? Also, since f is a function of three independent variables, I'm confused - wouldn't that be four dimensional?
Yes, you are integrating the function, \displaystyle e^{x^2 + y^2 + z ^2} over the volume of a unit ball.

Remember that \displaystyle x^2 + y^2 + z ^2=\rho^2\ .
 
Thank you for your reply. The solution is worked out: \frac{4\pi}{3}(e - 1). My problem now is visualizing e^{x^2 + y^2 + z^2}. Could you explain what this would look like?
 
Or is \frac{4\pi}{3}(e - 1) like a scalar field that says how much each position in the unit ball is "worth"?
 
zjmarlow said:
Or is \frac{4\pi}{3}(e - 1) like a scalar field that says how much each position in the unit ball is "worth"?

How did you arrive at that result?

I looks as if you have you have made some gross simplification.
 
Sorry, that should be f(x, y, z) (in general) or e^{x^2 + y^2 + z^2} (in this particular case).
 
Show what integral you have in spherical coordinates.
 
Ok, I copied the example problem wrong. It should be
\iiint\limits_B e^{(x^2 + y^2 + z^2)^{(3/2)}}dV
which becomes
\int_0^{2\pi} \int_0^\pi \int_0^1 e^{(\rho^2)^{(3/2)}} \cdot \rho^2 sin \phi d\rho d\phi d\theta
= \int_0^{2\pi} \int_0^\pi \frac{e - 1}{3} sin \phi d\phi d\theta
= \int_0^{2\pi} \frac{2}{3}(e - 1) d\theta
= \frac{4\pi}{3}(e - 1)

I guess I see how the integral without the function calculates volume (the book has a nice picture of a curved box) but what's the meaning of the function you integrate? What does something like e^{(x^2 + y^2 + z^2)^{(3/2)}} or e^{\rho^3} even look like?
 
zjmarlow said:
Ok, I copied the example problem wrong. It should be
\iiint\limits_B e^{(x^2 + y^2 + z^2)^{(3/2)}}dV
which becomes
...

I guess I see how the integral without the function calculates volume (the book has a nice picture of a curved box) but what's the meaning of the function you integrate? What does something like e^{(x^2 + y^2 + z^2)^{(3/2)}} or e^{\rho^3} even look like?
Well, that makes more sense.

The integral \displaystyle \int e^{\rho^3}\rho^2 \,d\rho is pretty straight forward.

The integral \displaystyle \int e^{\rho^2}\rho^2 \,d\rho involves the error function.
 
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Your original question was,
Does this evaluate the volume of f(x,y,z) within the unit ball (i.e. anything falling outside the unit ball is discarded)? Also, since f is a function of three independent variables, I'm confused - wouldn't that be four dimensional?

I don't know what you mean by "volume" of a function! An integral, in general, doesn't have any specific geometric or physical interpretation- it depends upon the application. One possible application is to take f(x,y,z) to be the density of an object. Then the integral would be the total mass of the object. And, no it would not be four dimensional. Since x, y, and z are distances, measured, say, in meters, then the integral would have units of "cubic meters" 'times' whatever units f has.

If, as before, f(x,y,z) is density, measured in kilograms per cubic meter, then the integral will have units of (kg/m^3)(m^3)= kg
 

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