Troubleshooting a Boost Circuit: Voltage Rise & Gate Issues

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around troubleshooting issues encountered in a boost circuit design, specifically focusing on voltage rise behavior, gate drive problems with MOSFETs, and the efficiency of the circuit configuration. Participants explore both theoretical and practical aspects of the circuit's operation.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • One participant reports a sudden voltage rise from 40% to 50% duty cycle and questions the cause, suggesting it may relate to continuous/discontinuous operation mode transitions.
  • Another participant notes that the behavior of the gate voltage pulse resembles charging and discharging, attributing this to the high total gate input capacitance of power MOSFETs and the significance of Miller capacitance at high output voltages.
  • Some participants propose that a dedicated gate driver IC may be necessary to effectively drive the MOSFET gate at the operating frequency of 300 kHz, while others suggest discrete components could also work.
  • Concerns are raised about the efficiency of stepping up from a 5V input to a 100V output, with suggestions that a transformer or flyback topology may be more appropriate than a simple boost converter.
  • One participant requests a schematic of the circuit to better understand the issues being faced.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the appropriate methods for driving the MOSFET and the feasibility of the voltage step-up design. The discussion remains unresolved, with no consensus on the best approach or solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight potential limitations related to the choice of components, circuit design, and operational modes, but these aspects remain unresolved and dependent on further details from the circuit schematic.

core7916
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Hello. I am creating a boost circuit and there is a lot of problems while testing.
Before creating circuit i have simulated circuit in modelsim.
Problems.
1. Sudden voltage rise from 40% to 50 % dury cycle. ( i am checking each duty cycle )
2. When applying a gate voltage to mosfet the the pulse is behave like charging and discharging (like capacitor charge and discharge). In 90% duty cycle the pulse is not reaching zero, similarly in 10 % pulse is not reaching pulse voltage ( 5v - from function generator). Frq= 300khz
* I am designing 5v input to 100v output.
Why this is happenig ?
* Should i use any other driving component to use drive the gate of mosfet?.
 
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core7916 said:
When applying a gate voltage to mosfet the the pulse is behave like charging and discharging (like capacitor charge and discharge).
A power MOSFET is made from many MOSFETs in parallel. There is a very high total gate input capacitance that must be charged quickly. With a high output voltage, the miller capacitance between the gate and drain may become significant.

core7916 said:
* Should i use any other driving component to use drive the gate of mosfet?.
Yes. The driver you need would depend on your choice of MOSFET and the circuit employed. It might only need a couple of BJTs to drive the gate.
Please post your circuit diagram.
 
core7916 said:
Sudden voltage rise from 40% to 50 % dury cycle.
By my limited experience such thing often means continuous/discontinuous operation mode transition. Check your knowledge/design regarding operation modes.

core7916 said:
* Should i use any other driving component to use drive the gate of mosfet?.
At 300kHz, likely yes. There are some ICs for this specific role as 'gate driver'. You can do it with discrete components too, but far more simple with ICs.

core7916 said:
* I am designing 5v input to 100v output.
That feels like a bit too big step to do it efficiently. A transformer might be required, instead of a simple buck converter.
 
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core7916 said:
Hello. I am creating a boost circuit and there is a lot of problems while testing.
Can you upload a copy of your schematic please? Use the "Attach files" link below the Edit window to upload a PDF or JPEG copy of your schematic. Thank you.
 
Rive said:
That feels like a bit too big step to do it efficiently. A transformer might be required, instead of a simple buck converter.
Yes, easier with a flyback topology. You have to have big magnetics anyway, might as well put on another winding (or tap) and get back to a more reasonable duty cycle. Your peak to average current ratios will be stressful on things. OTOH, it can be done with a buck converter.
 

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