Troubleshooting Interference with Projector and Amp Setup | Seeking Assistance

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The discussion revolves around troubleshooting interference issues in a setup involving a DC projector and a guitar amplifier powered by a large capacitor. Participants explore potential causes of audio buzzing when the projector is activated, considering various electrical components and configurations.

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Main Points Raised

  • Colin describes a buzzing interference in the guitar amp that occurs when the projector is turned on, suggesting it may relate to voltage changes as the projector draws power.
  • Some participants propose that the interference could be caused by a DC motor in the projector, specifically due to sparking at the brushes, and suggest adding smaller capacitors across the DC supply line to mitigate this.
  • Colin confirms the presence of a cooling fan in the projector and asserts the use of a 55 Farad capacitor, while also mentioning that the charging method via a bicycle generator is not related to the interference issue.
  • One participant raises the possibility of an Earth rail problem and suggests using a star Earth point to separate the grounding for the amp and projector.
  • Another participant recommends temporarily disconnecting the power supply to the fan to determine if it is the source of the noise.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various hypotheses regarding the source of the interference, with no consensus reached on the definitive cause or solution. Multiple competing views remain regarding the potential impact of the projector's fan and grounding issues.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not resolved the specific electrical interactions causing the interference, and assumptions about the setup's configuration and components remain unverified.

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Hi

I need help with a project.

I have a 16v 55Farad capacitor that I am using to run a small 50 watt DC projector and 10 watt guitar amp. The audio is provided directly from the projector. Everything is DC. Both the projector and amp are connected directly to the capacitor.

The problem with the setup is this: when I switch on the projector I get really bad interference, a sort of buzzing in the guitar amp. When I turn the projector off, the buzzing stops. I tried running the amp on a separate power supply in case the capacitor (or other components) was causing EMI; but it appears not. I’ve also tried a different source for the audio input – when the projector is off it’s clear and when the projector is turned on it starts buzzing.

It’s possibly something to do with the voltage change once the projector starts drawing power? A friend suggested that I need some sort of voltage regulation between the capacitor and amp.

Grateful for your help.

Thanks
Colin
 
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Does the projector have a DC motor driving a cooling fan in it?

DC motors can easily generate interference due to sparking at the brushes.

If so, you could try some smaller capacitors across the DC supply line to the projector.
Maybe 10 uF tantalum.



Just curious, have you really got a 55 Farad capacitor?
How are you charging it?
 
vk6kro said:
Does the projector have a DC motor driving a cooling fan in it?

DC motors can easily generate interference due to sparking at the brushes.

If so, you could try some smaller capacitors across the DC supply line to the projector.
Maybe 10 uF tantalum.
Just curious, have you really got a 55 Farad capacitor?
How are you charging it?

Yes there is a cooling fan.

and yes I really do have a 55 farad cap. Charging is with a bicycle generator, although this is nothing to do with the interference as I've tried it disconnected.

To give you an idea:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UK0noZrDC8&feature=player_embedded

thanks
colin
 
I wonder if it's an Earth rail problem, which might be cured by choosing a star Earth point on the (presumabably) negative terminal of the capacitor and running separate Earth's to the amp and projector.
 
Since everything is running on DC, the fan motor looks like a possible source of noise.

If possible, briefly remove the power supply to this fan and see if the noise vanishes.
 

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