Troubleshooting LM311P Output Issue - Tips and Suggestions

  • Thread starter Thread starter Stonestreecty
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Amplifier
Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion focuses on troubleshooting an LM311P operational amplifier output issue, specifically regarding unexpected current behavior at the collector and emitter outputs. The user reports that the emitter (pin 1) sinks 11 mA and sources 20 mA despite the collector being unconnected, which does not align with the expected operation. Suggestions include grounding the emitter output, using a pull-up resistor to +5V on the collector, and verifying input voltages to ensure they are within the common mode range to prevent inversion issues.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of LM311P operational amplifier functionality
  • Basic knowledge of electronic circuit debugging techniques
  • Familiarity with current measurement methods in circuits
  • Knowledge of common mode voltage ranges in operational amplifiers
NEXT STEPS
  • Research grounding techniques for LM311P outputs
  • Learn about current limiting in operational amplifiers
  • Investigate common mode range specifications for LM311P
  • Explore the use of pull-up resistors in amplifier circuits
USEFUL FOR

Electronics engineers, hobbyists working with operational amplifiers, and anyone troubleshooting LM311P output issues will benefit from this discussion.

Stonestreecty
Messages
20
Reaction score
3
TL;DR
I'm using a LM311P. It is has a collector/emitter output. Because my circuit didn't function the way it should, I started debugging. But not following the input signal.
Hello, all
For this little project, I'm using a LM311P. It is has a collector/emitter output. Because my circuit didn't function the way it should, I started debugging.
With the collector unconnected the emitter (pin 1) still sinks (11 mA) and sources (20 mA) current, when applying a square wave input. I measured mean dc amperage to either rail, so the max is higher. I cannot explain this behavior.
Doing the current measurement on the collector (pin 7) with an unconnected emitter I get 14 mA when sinking, and none when sourcing. But not following the input signal.

Any suggestions what could cause this?
 

Attachments

  • schematic diagram.png
    schematic diagram.png
    19.5 KB · Views: 151
Engineering news on Phys.org
Stonestreecty said:
Summary:: I'm using a LM311P. It is has a collector/emitter output. Because my circuit didn't function the way it should, I started debugging. But not following the input signal.

With the collector unconnected the emitter (pin 1) still sinks (11 mA) and sources (20 mA) current, when applying a square wave input. I measured mean dc amperage to either rail, so the max is higher. I cannot explain this behavior.
The output is designed to be used as a voltage output that drives a load.
If you measure the output current you are testing the output current limiting.
Ground the emitter output, pullup the collector without the LED using a resistor to +5V, measure the output voltage on the collector.
Check the voltage needed by the LED. I cannot read the circuit text.
Check the input voltages and verify they are both in the common mode range. Some input structures invert when one input goes out of CM range.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
3K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
6K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
Replies
15
Views
2K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
4K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
7K
Replies
4
Views
3K