Two atoms and speed of sound ?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the speed of signal transmission between two atoms, exploring the relationship between atomic interactions and the speed of sound. Participants consider the implications of atomic mass, forces, and the nature of atomic bonds in this context.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the speed of signal transmission between two atoms is equivalent to the speed of light in an electric field, suggesting it may slow down to the speed of sound at a more massive nucleus.
  • Another participant asserts that changes in force are transmitted at the speed of light, but the reaction time of the other atom complicates the assignment of a specific value for two atoms.
  • A participant raises the question of what fundamental factors, such as momentum or energy of bonds, contribute to deceleration in atomic interactions.
  • It is noted that acceleration, including deceleration, is influenced by the application of force and the mass of the object, which affects its inertia and resistance to motion changes.
  • The complexity of determining the speed of sound in materials is highlighted, with considerations of atomic mass, rigidity, and molecular bonding being mentioned as significant factors.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of signal transmission and the factors influencing atomic interactions, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a consensus.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the assumptions regarding the definitions of speed, force, and the nature of atomic interactions, leaving these aspects open to interpretation.

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How fast is speed of signal between 2 atoms ?
Is it speed of light in electric field and then it slows down to speed of sound at more massive nucleus (p=mv) ?
 
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Any change in the force is transmitted at the speed of light, however it takes time for the other atom to react and move. It's hard to assign a value to just two atoms. It's more like a simple collision than a sound wave in that case.
 
it takes time for the other atom to react and move

Is it momentum (mass of nucleus) , energy of bonds or something else that causes deceleration on fundamental level ?

tnx for answer :D
 
elementHTTP said:
Is it momentum (mass of nucleus) , energy of bonds or something else that causes deceleration on fundamental level ?

tnx for answer :D

Acceleration (which includes deceleration) is caused by the application of a force. The mass of an object determines its inertia, its resistance to changes in its motion. IE its resistance to acceleration. Higher mass objects take more force to achieve the same acceleration as lower mass objects.

The speed of sound in a material is probably a complicated scenario. Not only do we have to consider the different masses of different elements in different materials, things like how rigid an object is, how its atomic/molecular bonds work, and a dozen other things must be taken into account. It is not an easy answer.
 

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