Two masses and two pulleys problem

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The discussion focuses on solving a physics problem involving two masses and a system of pulleys. Participants analyze the application of Newton's second law to derive the acceleration of mass M1, noting the relationships between tensions and accelerations in the system. A key point of confusion arises regarding the assumption that the accelerations of M1 and M2 are equal, which is corrected by recognizing that the movements of the masses and pulleys are interdependent. The conversation emphasizes the importance of considering the direction of acceleration and the constraints imposed by the inextensible strings. Ultimately, the correct relationship between the accelerations is clarified, leading to a more accurate expression for M1's acceleration.
  • #31
All right, I think I get it now. Back to the original problem.

So I have four pieces of information:

##T_1 - W_1 = m_1 a_1##
##T_2 - W_2 = m_2 a_2##
##T_1 = 2T_2##
##a_2 = 2 a_1##

When I combine all of this, I get the equation ##\displaystyle a_1 = \frac{g(2 m_2 - m_1)}{m_1 - 4 m_2}##, which is not correct because I need to have that if the masses are equal, then ##\displaystyle a_1 = \frac{g}{5}##. What am I doing wrong?
 
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  • #32
Mr Davis 97 said:
All right, I think I get it now. Back to the original problem.

So I have four pieces of information:

##T_1 - W_1 = m_1 a_1##
##T_2 - W_2 = m_2 a_2##
##T_1 = 2T_2##
##a_2 = 2 a_1##

When I combine all of this, I get the equation ##\displaystyle a_1 = \frac{g(2 m_2 - m_1)}{m_1 - 4 m_2}##, which is not correct because I need to have that if the masses are equal, then ##\displaystyle a_1 = \frac{g}{5}##. What am I doing wrong?
You have to take the the sign of accelerations into account. m1 and m2 accelerate in opposite directions. If m1 moves upward, the hanging pulley moves downward, and so does m2. So a2=2a1 is not true.
 
  • #33
so a(2)=-2a(1)?
 

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