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The discussion centers on selecting the appropriate water jet to move a heavy stone a short distance. Two jets are compared: one with 50 bar static pressure and 5 m/s velocity, and another with 10 bar static pressure and 89.5 m/s velocity. The consensus leans towards the first jet due to its higher static pressure, which is believed to be more effective in moving the heavy stone. However, participants note that both jets have similar total pressures when calculated, suggesting that the velocity of the second jet could also provide sufficient momentum transfer to the stone. The conversation highlights the importance of Bernoulli's law and the role of static pressure and velocity in generating the necessary force to push the stone. Ultimately, both jets may be valid options, depending on the specific dynamics at play during the interaction between the water and the stone.
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Let's discuss the next problem:

An unfortunated engineer has one heavy stone that has to be moved a small distance. Thus, he thinks of pushing it away by means of a water jet, pointing it towards stone centre of mass. But he has to types of jet available:

-One has 50 bar of static pressure and 5 m/s of water velocity.
-The other has 10 bar of static pressure and 89.5 m/s of water velocity.

One jet has to be choosen in order to provide the neccesary force to push the stone a short distance, as engineer's boss is claiming all day it has to be done.

What type of jet would you choose?.
 
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I would personaly choose the first jet. Becouse the stone is heavy and it would probably be easyer to move with a jet that has more static pressure.
 
First one, more static pressure.
 
The first one has a very small advantage when you figure out the total pressure by my calculations. I think the point of the exercise is to use Bernouli's law, though.
 
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The first one has a very small advantage when you figure out the total pressure by my calculations. I think the point of the exercise is to use Bernouli's law, though.

My opinion is similar to yours. It is certain that if you compute total presure is aprox. the same in both cases. I have not the universal answer, but in my opinion, if you pay attention to the leading stagnation point that is formed in the interface stone-water, it seems pressure total is what exerts the pushing force. Those who had said static pressure has not written the momentum equation in the jet direction.

Any opinion counteracting what I have just said is welcomed, but it is logical to think velocity provides the exchange of momentum to the stone, although static pressure acts like a "total pressure" reservoir ready to be released when the water stagnates eventually at the zone of frontal contact. So that both of the jets would be valid, isn't it?.
 
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