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CEL said:Can you provide a link for his claims?
Finding a camera with ufo footage on it sounds extremely implausible.gareth said:Hold up,
The 'more info' in the youtube video reads as follows#
This is a video was on a cheap camera I found when Hiking in the Smokey Mountains.
This is all that was on it.
http://www.theage.com.au/national/30-years-on-ufo-mystery-still-vivid-20081011-4yss.html...Steve Robey remembers it like it was yesterday. The now-retired air traffic controller was working the night shift at the Melbourne Flight Service Unit on Saturday, October 21, 1978, when the call came in at 7.06pm.
Pilot Frederick Valentich, flying from Moorabbin Airport to King Island to pick up some crayfish, reported that a strange aircraft was "playing a game with him" and he wanted to know if any military planes were in the area...
Ivan Seeking said:http://www.theage.com.au/national/30-years-on-ufo-mystery-still-vivid-20081011-4yss.html
References to official documents for this event are found in the UFO Napster.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081020/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_britain_ufoLONDON (Reuters) – Two U.S. fighter planes were scrambled and ordered to shoot down an unidentified flying object (UFO) over the English countryside during the Cold War, according to secret files made public on Monday.
One pilot said he was seconds away from firing 24 rockets at the object, which moved erratically and gave a radar reading like "a flying aircraft carrier."
The pilot, Milton Torres, now 77 and living in Miami, said it spent periods motionless in the sky before reaching estimated speeds of more than 7,600 mph (12,000 kph)...
LONDON — An American fighter pilot flying from an English air base at the height of the Cold War was ordered to open fire on a massive UFO that lit up his radar, according to an account published by Britain's National Archives on Monday.
nuby said:http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081020/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_britain_ufo
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/bizarre/6077389.htmlIf you believe former fighter pilot Milton Torres' story — and news organizations around the world are running with it — the U.S. Air Force was seconds from attacking an alien aircraft over England late one cloudy night in 1957.
Possible interstellar war was averted when the unidentified flying object sped away.
"It was not made of this earth," said Torres, 77, a retired Florida International University engineering professor.
Torres' account was included in thousands of pages of UFO-related documents recently declassified by the British Ministry of Defense and posted online by the British national archive.[continued]
The video doesn't seem to work.Ivan Seeking said:More UFO reports from Texas [with video]
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2008/10/25/pkg.tx.more.ufo.sightings.wfaa
http://www.myfoxaustin.com/myfox/pa...n=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1AUSTIN -- Carl Lancaster of Austin believes that UFOs are hovering over the city's sky at night and believes he has the video to prove it. Foti Kallergis spoke with Lancaster who showed FOX 7 his UFO footage...
The Danish Air Force has opened its UFO archives...over 15,000 report
UFO archives are now readily available to the public, detailing sightings from over the last 30 years. The Danish Air Force published the archive online yesterday because it felt that ‘there was nothing secret in the files’.
The Air Force said that most of the sightings remained ‘unidentified’ because the details were not precise enough. However, some of the reports contained enough description to rule out the UFOs as aircraft, weather phenomenon or paper lanterns...
subliminal said:Really? This is a PDF file.
Mammo said:Ivan Seeking;
I personally believe that there could be two main reasons for the genuine UFO phenomena. One is the obvious 'saucer' shaped craft, which are either extraterrestrial or man-made whilst the other is something more down-to-earth. There is substantial evidence of 'things with wings' in the cryptozoological world. It is not beyond the bounds of reasoning to suggest that a large unknown night-flying (i.e. wing flapping) creature has developed bioluminescence. If small creatures that live at the bottom of the sea can do it, so can big things that fly in the dark. Have you ever heard of anyone with this opinion?
CEL said:The two options are possible and equally probable. A more likely explanation is misidentification of aircrafts, atmospheric phenomena or heavenly bodies.
I agree with this. Even claims of 'earth lights' after earthquake events are total speculation. At least ball lightning has been replicated in the lab. I even believe that the 'things with wings' explanation is better than mystery Earth generated lighting effects. There was a TV programme (Monster Hunter?) where a team of investigators went to Umboi Island to film the 'pterosaur-like' creature reported by the natives. They got mystery lights recorded in the pitch dark on camera, although they couldn't see anything with the naked eye, but they definitely got the heeby-geebies.Ivan Seeking said:In the most intersting cases, the problem with claiming atmospheric phenomena is this: What phenomena? As I have said before, even if we all agree that some of the most interesting reports are, say, due to ball lighitning, we still have quite a mystery. The problem is that we are creating explanations from thin air with no supporting evidence. To then accept these explanations is an act of faith, not science.
Mammo said:Even claims of 'earth lights' after earthquake events are total speculation. At least ball lightning has been replicated in the lab.
Mammo said:Is there a link to scientific Earthlight investigation?
I wonder if the pics of the diamond ufo are online somewhere.Other cases include the description of a black inverted boomerang-shaped UFO by two experienced air traffic controllers at Heathrow. The sighting, from the airport's control tower on the morning of 17 December 1992, came a week after numerous witnesses in Louth, Lincolnshire, reported seeing three lights attached to a large, triangular craft.
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The most intriguing incident involving such a craft occurred at 9pm on 4 August 1990, at Calvine, a remote hamlet near Pitlochry in Scotland. According to the brief details released by the MoD, witnesses saw a diamond-shaped UFO hovering for about 10 minutes before it disappeared upwards at high speed. During the incident, Harrier jump jets were seen making a number of low-level passes. Colour photographs reveal both the UFO and at least one of the jets.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/mar/22/ufos-aliens-di55-mod
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...ese-scientists-filmed-UFO-for-40-minutes.htmlScientists at the Purple Mountain Observatory in Nanjing are reported to have confirmed that they filmed a UFO during the eclipse for 40 minutes. They say that they will spend the next 12 months studying the footage before drawing any conclusions...
Ivan Seeking said:This story is breaking as if a credible report. It is a bit hard to tell at this point so I am posting for tracking purposes. If anyone has good information supporting or debunking this report, please post it.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...ese-scientists-filmed-UFO-for-40-minutes.html
There are so many bogus internet news sources these days that it is getting harder and harder to pick out any potentially credible reports.
Garth said:The Telgraph is a conservative paper in the UK - its report ought to be accurate, that says nothing, of course, about the nature of the observations at the Purple Mountain observatory.
Garth