Understanding Adiabatic Compression

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Adiabatic compression refers to a thermodynamic process where no heat is exchanged with the environment, despite the work done on the gas increasing its internal energy. When compressing a gas in a closed container, the energy input is classified as work rather than heat transfer, which clarifies the confusion about energy changes. The discussion also touches on the degrees of freedom in diatomic molecules, noting that rotation along the bond axis is not typically counted due to quantum mechanical constraints. Specifically, the energy required to excite this rotational mode is significantly higher than thermal energy at standard temperatures. Understanding these concepts is crucial for grasping the principles of thermodynamics and molecular behavior.
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Hi, I have a little problem understanding adiabatic compression.

Let me start with the definition of adiabatic process from wikipedia, "In thermodynamics, an adiabatic process or an isocaloric process is a thermodynamic process in which the net heat transfer to or from the working fluid is zero."

My problem is, when we compress a certain gas in a closed container, we inject our kinetic energy to decrease the volume of the container, so shouldn't this means there is a net heat change, or a change in the total energy of the system?

or this kind of injection of energy does not categorize under heat transfer, I am quite confused.

I give my greatest thanks in advance! :)
 
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Kurokari said:
My problem is, when we compress a certain gas in a closed container, we inject our kinetic energy to decrease the volume of the container, so shouldn't this means there is a net heat change, or a change in the total energy of the system?
When you do work on the gas, you definitely add energy. But that's not 'heat'. Heat is the flow of energy due to temperature difference.

Read this: https://www.physicsforums.com/showpost.php?p=1595186&postcount=1
 
Thank you for the link, it helped me a lot!

One more small thing, why is it that the rotation of a diatomic molecule along the atom-atom bond not counted as one of the degree of freedom?
 
Kurokari said:
One more small thing, why is it that the rotation of a diatomic molecule along the atom-atom bond not counted as one of the degree of freedom?
That's actually a quantum mechanical effect. The kinetic energy for something undergoing cyclical motion (vibration or rotation) is characterized by mx2w2, where x is the spatial size scale and w is the frequency. But here's where a big difference between vibrations and rotations appears-- for vibrations, x is a variable, and can be as large as it needs to be to get ~kT of energy into the mode in question. But for rotations, x is fixed by the size scale of the rotating object, the "lever arm" of the appropriate rotation. So when x is extremely small, as in the case you mention, it would require huge w to get kT of energy into that mode, of order w=(kT/m)1/2x-1. However, huge w, coupled with the quantum mechanical minimum action h, means you won't excite that mode, since here homework >> kT, because (kT/m)1/2x-1>> kT/h whenever x << h/(mkT)1/2. So we only exite modes like that when T is very high, and it generally isn't that high in the applications you have in mind.
 
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