Understanding Axial Forces and Section Properties in Strength of Materials

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around understanding axial forces and section properties in the context of a homework problem related to strength of materials. Participants are exploring how to calculate areas and forces in a scenario involving two bars subjected to axial loads.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about how to proceed with the forces after calculating the area of the bars.
  • Another participant suggests that the question might be a test question and implies the original poster should attempt it independently.
  • A participant clarifies that the question is from a review for a final exam and is directly from the textbook.
  • One participant shares their research and asks for feedback on their solution, indicating they believe they are on the right track.
  • Another participant offers a positive assessment of the calculations but admits to not having excelled in the class.
  • A participant questions the use of π in the area calculation for what is described as a square section and suggests drawing a normal force diagram to check the axial load variation.
  • One participant acknowledges a misunderstanding of the question and expresses uncertainty about calculating the area of a square bar when only one dimension is provided.
  • A later reply prompts the original poster to clarify their understanding of the differences between rectangular and square section bars and encourages them to sketch a normal force diagram.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion reflects a lack of consensus on the correct approach to the problem, with participants expressing various levels of understanding and differing opinions on the calculations and concepts involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not covered normal force diagrams in their coursework, which may limit their ability to fully engage with the problem. There are also uncertainties regarding the definitions and calculations related to the area of the bars.

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Homework Statement


I am having trouble with question 1 on the attachment posted. I understand that i need to get the area of the 2 bars. I am just not sure what to do with the forces. ALso i know the picture may be dark. P2 starts at point B and is pulling to the right and P3 starts at point C and is pulling to the left.


Homework Equations


I believe i use the equation A=∏d(^2)/4 to find the area but i am lost from there


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Looks like this is a test question. Perhaps you should do this on your own?
 
Its Review for our final. Its an old test The question comes right out of our textbook.
 
after doing some research online i think i may be on the right track. The question is attchment #1 and my solution is attachment #2 .Please advise if i am doing this correctly. Thank you in advance
 

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I took that class last semester and you calcuations look correct to me, but then again i didnt ACE that class by any means
 
3 things. Why do you use pi on what the question says is a square section?
Your units of stress are not what an engineer would use. Have you drawn a normal force diagram, that is, a graph showing variation of axial load from one end to the other and checked it. If you had, and included the reaction I think you wouldn't have made the mistake you have for the force in AC.
 
wow. I misread the question. I still believe i need to use the equation θ= P/A
but now I am not sure how to get the area of a square bar A= bh when only one dimension is given? I no whave no idea what my next step is. We have not covered normal force diagrams
 
"im not sure how to get the area of a square bar A= bh when only one dimension is given?"
What do you understand is the difference is between a rectangular section bar and a square section bar? Do you have a working definition of the axial force at a section?
I have told you what a normal force diagram is. Can you sketch that by calculating the axial force at every section of the bar?
 

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