Understanding Car-Wall Collisions: Net Force and Assumptions

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The discussion revolves around a car-wall collision problem, specifically focusing on the net force exerted on the car by the wall during the collision. Participants are exploring the implications of Newton's laws and the assumptions related to the scenario.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the nature of the net force during the collision, with some suggesting the need for a Free Body Diagram and consideration of Newton's Third Law. Others question the assumptions about the wall's mass and the implications of the car coming to a stop without rebounding.

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The discussion is active, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants have offered insights into the forces involved and the relationship between momentum and impulse, while others express uncertainty about the concepts due to a lack of prior exposure to collision problems.

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There is mention of the participants' varying levels of understanding regarding collision problems, and one participant notes that they have not yet covered this topic in their lectures, indicating a potential gap in foundational knowledge.

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car-wall collision problem (urgent)

Homework Statement


What net force is acted upon the car by the wall during the collision. Explain your answer along with what assumptions you made.


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ywJ3WGpf0hw

This video is the example of the question. So I am not sure what the question mean by the net force acted upon the car.
 
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I'm not that great at this stuff, but what have you attempted so far?
You should start off by thinking of what equation to use and drawing a Free Body Diagram
Keep in mind Newton's Third law
 
There is no equations, its an explanation problem. The only thing i can come up with is the force the car exerts on the wall will be same exact but opposite force the wall exerts back to the car. So the momentum of the car and wall added together should be zero because from the video you can see the car stops right after crashing, and did not bounce back.
 
Right, maybe the car slams into the wall and comes to an immediate stop after traveling at a constant velocity and ending with a velocity of 0?
I think if it was equal and opposite the car would have bounced back--it didnt occur in this case.

"Either the wall is so massive that it accelerates/moves an imperceptible amount or it doesn't move at all, in which case the force of the collision actually acts on the entire planet - which is, obviously, so massive that the effects are negligible."

I havn't really gone over collision problems in my lectures yet. So I am not entirely sure :smile:
 
You see that the car comes to stop, and deformed during that time. The wall exerts a force that is opposite to the velocity of the car. If you know the time period Δt of the collision you can find the average force by using change of momentum = impulse : -mv=FΔt.

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