Understanding Centre of Mass Motion: E + $\sum_{i < j}(F_j_i + F_j_j)$

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The discussion centers on the equation for the center of mass motion, specifically the term E + ∑_{i < j}(F_j_i + F_j_j), and its derivation. Participants express confusion about how this expression arises, particularly the notation i < j and its implications. It is clarified that the equality ∑_{j ≠ i}F_i_j = ∑_{i < j}(F_j_i + F_i_j) is a mathematical identity rather than a physics concept, and can be verified through examples. The conversation emphasizes the necessity of understanding this relationship to grasp the overall motion of the center of mass in a system. This mathematical truism is essential for further studies in dynamics and force interactions.
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I was looking over my notes for centre of mass for a system and it says:

c = \frac {1} {M} \sum_{i} m_i\ddot{r}_i = \sum_{i}(E_i + \sum_{j \neq i}F_i_j)

where M is the total mass of the system.

Then it considers the centre of Mass in motion:

M \ddot{c} = \sum_i m_i \ddot{r}_i = \sum_{i}(E_i + \sum_{j \neq i}F_i_j)

= \sum_{i}E_i + \sum_{j \neq i}F_i_j = E + \sum_{i &lt; j}(F_j_i + F_j_j)

= E

The thing is, I don't understand the line:

E + \sum_{i &lt; j}(F_j_i + F_j_j)

and how it comes about (especially the i < j) part.

Any help would be grateful!
 
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Could there be a typo? I'd think that:
\sum_{j \neq i}F_i_j = \sum_{i &lt; j}(F_j_i + F_i_j)

(And this term disappears due to Newton's 3rd law.)
 
Doc Al said:
\sum_{j \neq i}F_i_j = \sum_{i &lt; j}(F_j_i + F_i_j)

Is this something you just need to know? It suddenly appears in my Uni notes without any explanation.
 
I'm not sure what you're asking. Are you asking "Why is that true?" or "How am I supposed to know that?"
 
Doc Al said:
I'm not sure what you're asking. Are you asking "Why is that true?" or "How am I supposed to know that?"

What I mean is why is this true? Can this be shown from previous statements regarding the interaction of forces. I don't understand where

\sum_{j \neq i}F_i_j = \sum_{i &lt; j}(F_j_i + F_i_j)

is coming from.
 
The truth of this has nothing to do with physics; it's just a mathematical truism. To see that it's true, make up a small example (where i,j < 5, say) and confirm that both sides are equal.
 
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