Understanding Dirac Adjoint Derivation & Spinor Transformations

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The discussion focuses on the derivation of the Dirac adjoint and its relationship with spinor transformations, particularly in the context of Lorentz transformations and the properties of Gamma matrices. Participants explore mathematical identities and expressions involving these concepts, aiming to clarify specific steps in the derivation process.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in showing that the expression for the adjoint of the transformation is equal to γ0S[Λ]-1γ0.
  • Another participant suggests that the Omega matrix should also be daggered, noting its potential complexity and referencing the need for the Clifford algebra.
  • A participant refers to a specific equation from a document, questioning how γ0 is absorbed in the exponential form.
  • One participant explains that the property ##(\gamma^0)^2 = 1## allows for simplifications in the series expansion of the exponential function.
  • Another participant verifies a mathematical manipulation involving the adjoint and the Gamma matrices, confirming the steps taken are correct up to a certain order.
  • A later reply indicates agreement with the verification, but notes it is only accurate up to order ##\Omega^2##.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the specific steps of the derivation, with some expressing uncertainty about the treatment of the Omega matrix and the implications of the Gamma matrix properties. Multiple viewpoints and methods are presented without resolution.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the need for additional assumptions regarding the properties of the Omega matrix and the implications of the Clifford algebra, which remain unresolved in the discussion.

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I am trying to understand the derivation of the Dirac adjoint. I understand the derivation of the following identities involving Spinors, the Gamma matrices and Lorentz transformations:

(Sμν) = γ0Sμνγ0

s[Λ] = exp(ΩμνSμν/2)

s[Λ] = exp(Ωμν(Sμν/2))

The part I'm having trouble with is showing that the last line is also equal to:

γ0S[Λ]-1γ0

Its probably simple but I'm having a mental block with it. Appreciate any help to get me going again.
 
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You should also dagger the Omega; it can be complex in general. Without doing the calculation myself, it seems you need the Clifford algebra and give an expression for the inverse of S. But this should be in any decent qft book, like Peskin.
 
OK. I have been looking at Equation 103 in http://isites.harvard.edu/fs/docs/icb.topic473482.files/10-spinors.pdf. I don't understand how γ0 get absorbed in the exponential.
 
Well, ##(\gamma^0)^2 = 1##, so for any ##n##, ##(\gamma^0 S_{\mu\nu}\gamma^0)^n = \gamma^0 (S_{\mu\nu})^n \gamma^0##. Using this and the series expression ##\exp x = \sum \frac{x^n}{n!}## should make this clear. But it is not clear to me how this works for general, complex ##\Omega## as haushofer said...
 
OK. So just to verify (neglecting indeces):

γ0(1 + iΩS)γ0

multiplying from left and right gives:

γ0γ0 - iΩγ0Sγ0

= exp(-iΩγ0Sγ0)

correct.
 
Thats what I think (last equal of course up to order ##\Omega^2##).
 

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