Understanding Dumbbell Rotation: Laws and Material Constants

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The discussion focuses on the rotational dynamics of a dumbbell, specifically how the rotation of one end affects the other through the middle bar's material properties. It highlights that if the middle bar is made of a flexible material like rubber, the rotation will be delayed compared to a rigid connection. Participants inquire about the mathematical laws governing this motion, particularly how to express the relationship between torque and angular displacement over time. The conversation also touches on using a torsion spring model to represent the middle bar's behavior under torque. Understanding the material constants and dimensions is essential for accurate calculations of the system's dynamics.
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I just thought about a dumbbell (for some reason) and how one end rotates if I turn the other. If it was just a "mathematical system" with two flat cylinders and a long cylinder in between, then one end would rotate in exactly the same way as the other. But if the middle bar was rubber for example, then the rotation would be delayed in the other end. Now, is there some law describing the motion \theta(t) of the other end if I know \tau(t) (torque as function of time) of the first end. That is, if I also know the length of the middle bar and what it is made of? What material constants come into play? Could I model the bar with a simple spring instead?
 
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tiny-tim said:
Hi Antti! :smile:

(nobody else has replied, so: )

Does this help … http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torsion_spring? :smile:

Well no. Say I had a dumbbell made entirely of Copper and I knew the exact shape of the whole thing. Then I'm thinking there should be some torsion-spring effect, though small, in the middle bar when I apply a torque to one end. No materials are perfectly rigid. How do you calculate this from the dimensions of the object and some (which?) material constants?
 
Try http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torsion_(mechanics)" , which gives the spring constant (L/JG) of a beam under torsion.
 
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