Understanding Entropy and Gravity in Quantum Field Theory: A Beginner's Guide

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of entropy in the context of quantum field theory, particularly how it relates to volume and gravity. Participants are exploring the implications of dimensional reduction when gravity is considered, as well as the significance of a UV cut-off in local quantum field theories.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant mentions that the maximum entropy of a spherical volume in quantized space scales with the volume (S~V).
  • Another participant suggests that when gravity is involved, entropy may instead scale with the surface area rather than the volume.
  • Questions arise regarding the meaning of the UV cut-off and the specific scaling mentioned in the context of local quantum field theories.
  • A request for the exact reference of the paper being discussed is made, highlighting the importance of context and reputable sources in the discussion.
  • Another participant agrees that additional context would be beneficial for understanding the initial question.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a lack of consensus on the interpretation of the initial statements regarding entropy and gravity, with some proposing alternative views on how entropy scales and others seeking clarification on the context and terminology used.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions about the definitions and implications of terms like "UV cut-off" and "dimensional reduction," as well as the need for specific references to support claims made in the discussion.

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I read a sentence that says if a spherical volume in placed in a quantized space then the maximum entropy of the system can be calculated and it after simple steps found to be:
S~V where V is the volume of the spherical volume.

"Then the author said: Each local quantum field theory(with UV cut-off, in this case the grid) will give rise to an entropy that scales in that way. But, once gravity comes into play, this will no longer be so. Gravity gives rise to so-called dimensional reduction."

Can someone explain to me (because I know nothing about quantum field theory what was meant by the quoted 2 sentences above)? Thank you in advance
 
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I would take it to mean that it becomes proportional to the surface area rather than the volume.
 
Which sentence are you talking about? I guess the second one. If so, what does this one mean "Each local quantum field theory(with UV cut-off, in this case the grid) will give rise to an entropy that scales in that way."

What UV cut off? "In that way"? What way?
 
@M. next, please give the exact reference (author, title, journal, issue, page number, year published, and link to free version if possible) of the paper you are citing. At the moment, I think hardly anyone can understand your question because it is so bereft of context.

Incidentally, I believe the rule in all subforums of Physics Forums, except for "Beyond the Standard Model" is that papers discussed must have been published in peer reviewed journals, or come from sources of similar repute. Reputation does not imply correctness, and plenty of good stuff appears elsewhere, but because there is so much rubbish out there, I believe this is the rule that is used at PF.
 
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I agree with atyy, it would be helpful to see the full context.
 

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