Understanding Heat Flow and Entropy in the Second Law of Thermodynamics

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The discussion focuses on the heat flow between two bodies at different temperatures, T and T+ΔT, as dictated by the second law of thermodynamics. Heat flows from the higher temperature body (T+ΔT) to the lower temperature body (T), confirmed by the positive result of the integral dQln((T+ΔT)/T). The process is irreversible, as the system does not maintain equilibrium throughout the heat transfer, and the total change in entropy (ΔS_total) is calculated using specific heat and mass. The Clausius statement reinforces that heat transfer occurs from hot to cold, ensuring compliance with the second law.

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Homework Statement


Two bodies of temperature T and T+[tex]\Delta[/tex]T respectively (where [tex]\DeltaT>0[/tex]) are brought into direct thermal contact. Use a mathematical formulation of the second law to show:
(i)Which way heat flows; is this heat flow reversible?


Homework Equations


2nd law of thermodynamics [tex]\int^{T+\Delta{T}}_{T}\frac{dQ}{T}dT[/tex]


The Attempt at a Solution


[tex]\int^{T+\Delta{T}}_{T}\frac{dQ}{T}dT=dQ\left[ln(T)\right]^{T+\Delta{T}}_{T}[/tex]

[tex]=dQln\left(\frac{T+\Delta{T}}{T}\right)[/tex]

heat flows from [tex]T+\Delta{T}[/tex] to T as the result is positive.

Is this right? seems as if I am missing something out here, does the result being positive show the direction of heat flow? or is it always from higher temps to lower? and how do i show whether the heat flow is reversible?
 
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8614smith said:

The Attempt at a Solution


[tex]\int^{T+\Delta{T}}_{T}\frac{dQ}{T}dT=dQ\left[ln(T)\right]^{T+\Delta{T}}_{T}[/tex]

[tex]=dQln\left(\frac{T+\Delta{T}}{T}\right)[/tex]
The dT is incorrect.

[tex]\Delta S_{total} = \Delta S_1 + \Delta S_2 = \int_{T_1}^{T_1+\Delta T} + dQ/T \int_{T_2}^{T_2-\Delta T}dQ/T[/tex]

You can replace dQ with cmdT where c is the specific heat and m is the mass. This would result in:

[tex]\Delta S_{total} = c_1m_1\int_{T_1}^{T_1+\Delta T} dT/T + c_2m_2\int_{T_2}^{T_2-\Delta T}dT/T = c_1m_1\ln{((T_1+\Delta T)/T_1)} + c_2m_2\ln{((T_2-\Delta T)/T_2)}[/tex]

The second term is negative, of course.

You can use the Clausius statement of the second law to show that the heat flow is from the higher temperature body to the colder one. You could also observe that if the hotter body got hotter and the colder got colder, the change in entropy of the universe would be negative, which would violate the second law.

This is not a reversible process because the system is not in equilibrium at all times.

AM
 
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